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I know no one here will probably believe me but Ohio State or MTU in cincinnati is going to be a wash for attendance.Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits, Co-Founder of Tech Hockey Guide, and Creator/Host of the Chasing MacNaughton Podcast covering MTU Hockey and the WCHA.
Sports Allegiance: NFL: GB MLB: MIL NHL: MIN CB: UW CF: UW CH: MTU FIFA: USA MLS: MIN EPL: Everton
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Originally posted by Numbers View Post1- Is NoDak as a #3 in the Fargo bracket enough of a concern that Denver goes to Cincinnati, and UMD to Fargo? (This saves a flight also)
The Providence issue is a little interesting, but based on the fact that last time a regional was in Providence, Providence was also a 4 seed and got put in Providence, even though by seeding they should have been sent west, it seems unlikely that Harvard would be protected. Of course, Providence went on to win the title after being given that advantage, so maybe the NC$$ won't do that again, but I'd still bet reduce costs win out over competitive fairness.
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Originally posted by alslammerz View PostI changed the result of the BU-BC game on College Hockey News' tool and it gave BU a #1 seed (4th in PWR). But I'm not sure if when I make that switch if the program is having UML beat BU or BC so that may not be 100% accurate.
First, note BU's win%age, w-l-t record and RPI currently.
Now, add one more win, and recalculate their win%age.
Subtract, and note how much it improves.
Since Win%age is 25% of RPI, first add to their initial RPI, 1/4 of the resultant gain.
Then, figure out the QWB for a neutral site win against BC. Add that as well. (Quick calc...add about .0003 or .0004)
The result is very very very close to what their RPI would have been in the scenario you described.
I get .0026 of gain, so they would hop Minnesota by about .0003 for that last #1.
Unfortunately, there is also a schedule change there. So, let me think....Adding a game with UML would raise the Oppwin%. OppOpp wouldn't change much.
I think they would have had the last #1. But, without the ability to do a full calculation, I can't say that for sure.Last edited by Numbers; 03-19-2017, 09:23 AM.
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in 2009 bu could have been sent to bridgeport to avoid a host in the 3 seed at manchvegas. that 3 seed won and bu did indeed have to face them. bu won.
the seeding is straightforward this year. no conf matchup concerns. easy peasy. mookie would be shocked if they flipped around stuff where there is no need to to help 'attendance' when there is seemingly no care when they award sites (cincinnnati, ahem ).
on a personal note mookie hopes they do and keep bu in the east. but bu should be in fargo.a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.
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Originally posted by ticapnews View PostPenn State is flying no matter - barely. State College is actually closer to Providence (415 miles) than Cincinnati (426).
I still think Penn State to Cincinnati to bring some fans makes a lot of sense.
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Originally posted by Numbers View PostYou will have to do the math....So here is what to do:
First, note BU's win%age, w-l-t record and RPI currently.
Now, add one more win, and recalculate their win%age.
Subtract, and note how much it improves.
Since Win%age is 25% of RPI, first add to their initial RPI, 1/4 of the resultant gain.
Then, figure out the QWB for a neutral site win against BC. Add that as well. (Quick calc...add about .0003 or .0004)
The result is very very very close to what their RPI would have been in the scenario you described.
I get .0026 of gain, so they would hop Minnesota by about .0003 for that last #1.
Unfortunately, there is also a schedule change there. So, let me think....Adding a game with UML would raise the Oppwin%. OppOpp wouldn't change much.
I think they would have had the last #1. But, without the ability to do a full calculation, I can't say that for sure.
http://techhockeyguide.com/pairwise-...a-0cc47a7e6a58Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits, Co-Founder of Tech Hockey Guide, and Creator/Host of the Chasing MacNaughton Podcast covering MTU Hockey and the WCHA.
Sports Allegiance: NFL: GB MLB: MIL NHL: MIN CB: UW CF: UW CH: MTU FIFA: USA MLS: MIN EPL: Everton
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Has the NCAA ever concerned itself with a potential 2nd round game? I'm on my phone so I can't access it but I believe they put the overall #1 in the same bracket as the overall #5 one year. They aren't going to worry about the overall #10 (who they would assume will lose anyway)
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Originally posted by ticapnews View PostHas the NCAA ever concerned itself with a potential 2nd round game? I'm on my phone so I can't access it but I believe they put the overall #1 in the same bracket as the overall #5 one year. They aren't going to worry about the overall #10 (who they would assume will lose anyway)BS UMass Lowell 2015
PhD Georgia Institute of Technology 2020
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Originally posted by UML Puck Hawk;64toryline67802That has been my thought as wetorylinesll. Protect the number 1 in the first round sure. But they're not gonna guess at the second roundexcept maybe to put big rivalries in place for attendanceBS UMass Lowell 2015
PhD Georgia Institute of Technology 2020
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Close to last minute, but here's what I got.
Fargo
UMD
Union
NoDak
OSU
Cincy
Denver
WMU
PSU
Notre Dame
ManchVegas
Minny
Lowell
Air Force
Tech
Providence
Harvard
BU
Cornell
Providence
I made the decision to forgo protecting Denver in Cincy to draw the Notre Dame crowd, as I don't believe Tech would draw that well regardless
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