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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    A second piece on ZAR, this one via SI.

    http://www.si.com/nhl/2017/03/03/zac...agent-scouting

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    Quote Originally Posted by NU_Husky View Post
    A second piece on ZAR, this one via SI.

    http://www.si.com/nhl/2017/03/03/zac...agent-scouting
    All the media attention.. good for him. Long as he stays grounded.. which (by his comments), looks like he is.

    Now he (and team), better get their Wheaties this wknd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northeastern View Post
    Now he (and team), better get their Wheaties this wknd.
    ..and especially Ruck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gr8Sk8M8 View Post
    My issue with Kelleher is actually a fairly simple one and is one that Dan failed to mention: He is a half ice player. The award is not about who a player is surrounded with; it's about the player. I won't challenge the legitimacy of Kelleher but I'd put both ZAR and Vecchione well above him and the third spot (not that I've created an order here) should go to Charlie Williams - who is as legit as the other two.

    If being surrounded with *good* players reduces the *star* quality of another: Should Eichel and Gaudreau give theirs back? ?

    Dan should also look at the actual # games in which ZAR and Sikura were on the same full strength line...out of 34 it was less than 5...he was more likely on a line with Schule or Filipe than Sikura.
    First of all, here is the actual (per Collegehockeystats.com) breakdown for ZAR's line mates this season. As ScottK pointed out, he played with Sikura more than 25% of the time (9 times). He also played QUITE a bit with one or both of the Stevens brothers. And as noted by NU fans above he has played quite a bit with NU's other top-scorers on the PP...

    J. Stevens/N. Stevens – IIIII III
    J. Stevens/Schule – IIIII I
    Sikura/Schule – IIII
    J. Stevens/Fillipe – IIII
    J. Stevens/Sikura – III
    N. Stevens/Fillipe – II
    Sikura/Gaudette – I
    Sikura/Fillipe – I
    N. Stevens/Griffin – I
    N. Stevens/Rosenthal – I
    N. Stevens/Picking – I
    Fillipe/Griffin – I
    Collier/Schule – I

    21 - J. Stevens
    13 - N. Stevens
    11 - Schule
    9 - Sikura
    8 - Fillipe
    2 - Griffin
    1 – Rosenthal, Picking, Collier, Gaudette

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    Secondly, you missed my point entirely. I am not trying to take ANYTHING away from ZAR. I am simply attempting to make other's aware of Tyler Kelleher's LACK of talented teammates. It is clear from the numbers in my post above that he is playing with lesser line mates than any of the other top Hobey Forwards, yet he is still just as productive. Here's another nugget, illustrating exactly how impactful playing with Kelleher has been on his line mates (and why he is more than a simple playmaker).

    If Jason Salvaggio scores twice this weekend at MC, he will have 23 goals, matching his goal scoring total over the LAST FOUR seasons - including 20 goals in two years with the Indiana Ice and 3 in two seasons at UNH. Kelleher is directly responsible for A LOT more than his own 22 goals (which rank him fifth in the country, as is).

    McNicholas is just OK, Salvaggio is a north-south grinder with a decent shot who is suddenly one of the top-goal scorers in HE, while Grasso, BVR and Blackburn are inexperienced freshmen. Kelleher is carrying this offense on his own. Unfortunately, he is unlikely to get the credit he deserves until next season when UNH's offense falls off quite a bit. TK would play on the top-line for any team in the country, while most likely leading that team in scoring. If he played at DU, UMD or Minnesota - with more talented line-mates - he'd have 75+ points and be a Hobey Baker lock...

    Of course, Gaudreau and Eichel are worthy Hobey winners - but they absolutely benefited from playing on loaded teams and with talented players. These things don't have to be mutually exclusive. Again, the point was not that ZAR isn't deserving because he played with other very good players. The point is TK simply does not have that luxury and has still produced as much as any forward in the country this season.

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    If he played at Union, he'd be plus 20-25 just like Vecchione. The knock on Kelleher's defense is a lazy reflection of his size and UNH's poor team defense. Again, he is not a stalwart one on one - but his puck retrieval in his own zone, breakout ability, puck possession and effort make him a far better two-way player than he is ever given credit for. He won't contain elite forwards one on one - but that is not his job as a first-line winger at UNH. What he will do is limit opponents goal-scoring opportunities with his overall game. He plays big minutes on the PK and is always out on the ice in big situations. Blaming or stereotyping him, based on the incredibly shaky defensive group and the complete sieve playing behind him is ignoring reality. Unfortunately, people who don't watch him play will always fall back on the preconceived notions they wish to be true.

    If Kelleher played on the same teams as Gaudreau/Eichel/Vecchione - no one would worry about or question his defense, because the team's overall numbers would be fantastic. Those teams were loaded with talent, including elite level defensemen and goaltending. Not one voter even considered Gaudreau's size or ability to match up with opposing forwards. The reason they didn't? Because he played with four defensemen and a goalie who will all - if they haven't already - see the NHL on a BC team that ALWAYS had the puck.

    You're opinion of Kelleher only strengthens the idea that team success (in the current season and over the course of a players career) are critical to a voter's opinions and decision making. Which is why were both likely to be disappointed. Because UNH is losing and plays terrible team defense, Kelleher remains an outside shot. If he played on a winner - he'd be the favorite and UNH would be finishing behind ME and UM as perhaps the worst team in NCAA hockey...
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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    I think there's something to be said for the fact that the leading scorer in the NCAA has played with 13 different line combinations in 34 games this season, including Collier, Schule (11 times! even though Schule has been a healthy scratch for a good 15 games this year), Picking, and Rosenthal (who are both scratched far more than they play). He might not be our only line, but there was a while where he wasn't exactly playing with the best Northeastern has to offer.

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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    Opinions on UConn and this weekend's series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Trev View Post
    Opinions on UConn and this weekend's series?
    scroll back/ up a page. NUHusky did a nice write up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northeastern View Post
    scroll back/ up a page. NUHusky did a nice write up.
    It was another blogger but thanks for the plug.

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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    I finally got it to load using Chrome (which is not my usual browser).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NU_Husky View Post

    Hockey East stream is not loading DO NOT BUY IT.
    Mine is working fine. Just saying. But I wish I HADN'T spent the money. This is pathetic. NONE of the losing teams have even SCORED A GOAL yet. And two of the games are already over. Joke.

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    that was close.. hate 2 goal leads.. oh well, take it & regroup .. hopefully stronger finish tomorrow.
    Ruck was better than usual tonight.. as was UConn as expected.
    Go NU

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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    Let's remember that UConn was skating 6 on 4 when the first goal was scored. At both even strength and down one man, the D looked pretty good and RR made the stops he needed to make. Second (non-) goal was off a clusterchuck in front. If a couple of clearing shots were able to find the open UConn net, it would have been 3-0 or 4-1. Closer than I'd like but I've seen much worse.

    WRT Pack Network: I usually use Edge for streaming video but when I entered my userid and password on the Pack sign-in dialog, I kept getting redirected back to the sign-in dialog. So an endless loop. Finally able to load Pack and watch the game after switching over to Chrome. I can tell you that we've been spoiled rotten by goNUxtream. Not only does it work on the browser of your choice but the camera work and technical direction is superior to what I experienced with tonight.
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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    It was discovered by another NU fan that the cure to the stream ills was to make sure the Adobe plugin was enabled in chrome. Once that was done, the stream worked out fine. Still wouldn't call it a production worth $10. But it was a simple fix, once we knew what to look for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NU_Husky View Post
    It was discovered by another NU fan that the cure to the stream ills was to make sure the Adobe plugin was enabled in chrome. Once that was done, the stream worked out fine. Still wouldn't call it a production worth $10. But it was a simple fix, once we knew what to look for.
    I know a couple of cases where you have to actually go to the Adobe website to download the plugin directly. Some of the links on these streaming sites that say "Download the plugin here can be bad links or even download viruses.

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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    The site actually didn't even say that anything was wrong, it just kept buffering. The idea struck me in the first intermission that that was probably something to check. Defeinitely worse and more expensive than any stream we get during the regular season, home or away. Besides games at Bentley, of course.

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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    I was at the game but I remember the stream was awful against Maine last year too. Hockey East does about as well selling and marketing their product as NU has done promoting ZAR's Hobey candidacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevengeance View Post
    The site actually didn't even say that anything was wrong, it just kept buffering. The idea struck me in the first intermission that that was probably something to check. Defeinitely worse and more expensive than any stream we get during the regular season, home or away. Besides games at Bentley, of course.
    I saw a tweet this morning claiming that Pack didn't "go live" with this particular stream until around the eight minute mark of the first period. I have no idea if this is true or just someone venting but it is generally consistent with the time I finally got live audio/video (about 9 mins) after filing a trouble ticket with Pack and trying to troubleshoot. Hopefully don't have to deal with this again tonight.
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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    6-2 win. 3 PPG on the Evan Richardson major. 4 points for Johnny, 2 for ZAR. On to either UML or BU

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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    that's more like it! Go Huskies
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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 Part II: Postseason Edition

    Nice Win Huskies! I was there in a very empty barn tonight mostly due to Spring Break and while we continued to showcase our tremendous offensive promise, with cycles in the offensive zone, I still have the same grave concerns I have had since October. That said, RR played pretty well this weekend. However, again there were big D lapses in transition. We won't likely get away with that v. Lowell or BU. Anyway, UConn is now 0-10 against us and that makes me happy. However, it should be noted that UCONN had the momentum when they pulled to within a goal at 3 -2 and had been out shooting and playing us hard since mid way thru the 2nd.

    You take away that 5 min, major and this could have gone either way. The Blue Huskies of Storrs are big, strong and also offensively talented. Never easy to beat a team 4 times in single season, so this was an accomplishment. I will say it was hard fought playoff hockey and was a great game to watch. Trying to go next week. Cheers! If we win 20 games I will consider it a fairly incredible accomplishment because to this point since no NU hockey team has ever done that in back to back seasons!
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