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    Arkansas just executed their fourth inmate this week. If I recall correctly, it's because their lethal injection drugs need to be used by a certain date?
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    Let's play 'Guess Who Said It'
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaizeRage View Post
    Let's play 'Guess Who Said It'
    Darn, my money was on Ann Coulter and the far right being denied their first amendment rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaizeRage View Post
    Let's play 'Guess Who Said It'


    If you guessed a Republican New Hampshire state rep that was outed for anonymously posting online that women were "subordinate creatures" among many, many other misogynistic tirades and mocking of rape victims, congratulations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaizeRage View Post
    Let's play 'Guess Who Said It'


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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    One fee once/year. But you must pay it to watch. Your VPN access to watch the BBC is useless.
    Yes, having lived there, this is how it works: every year, they send a bill to every household, I assume based on postal records. You either pay the bill or check the box that says, under penalty of perjury, that you don't own a TV and don't stream any of the covered content over the internet. They have an extremely aggressive enforcement division that comes for unannounced visits to homes claiming not to watch. If they find any sort of TV on the premises, even if it's new, sealed in its original packaging - bang, massive fine. Not sure how they handle the streaming side, but I have a feeling they think they have a right to subpoena your browsing history if a violation is suspected.

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    That's... insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Yes, having lived there, this is how it works: every year, they send a bill to every household, I assume based on postal records. You either pay the bill or check the box that says, under penalty of perjury, that you don't own a TV and don't stream any of the covered content over the internet. They have an extremely aggressive enforcement division that comes for unannounced visits to homes claiming not to watch. If they find any sort of TV on the premises, even if it's new, sealed in its original packaging - bang, massive fine. Not sure how they handle the streaming side, but I have a feeling they think they have a right to subpoena your browsing history if a violation is suspected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    That's... insane.
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    Yes. And then they genuinely don't understand why the US refers to itself as "the land of the free" when they have just as much freedom as we do....

    Oh, and Switzerland does the same thing, so I assume most European countries do it, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Yes. And then they genuinely don't understand why the US refers to itself as "the land of the free" when they have just as much freedom as we do....

    Oh, and Switzerland does the same thing, so I assume most European countries do it, too.
    Pretty much every European country does: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence.

    In sense it's not any different from paying taxes on things like wireless services and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LynahFan View Post
    Yes. And then they genuinely don't understand why the US refers to itself as "the land of the free" when they have just as much freedom as we do....
    Personal freedom and democracy both peaked about thirty years ago in the US -- since then there has been a retrenchment as the oligarchy has advanced the freedom to amass infinite wealth at the expense of all others freedoms.

    After decades of corporate bribery and jeremiads by Cato, Heritage, the WSJ and the other organs of the GOP, the US now emphasizes the type of freedom embodied by the statement "all are equal before the law: rich and poor alike are prohibited from sleeping under bridges."

    In terms of civil liberties, rights of expression and assembly, press freedom, workers' freedom to organize, etc, we typically rank somewhere in the mid to high teens, behind the usual suspect more freed countries: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany, and the various small fry (Benelux, etc).

    In terms of effective freedom, taking into consideration the realities of inequality and social mobility and their suppression of personal flourishing, we are down in the 30s behind almost the entire developed world. We are a great country to be rich in. Poor? Not so much. Better than the undeveloped world certainly, so we'll continue to attract tidal waves of immigrants. But if it weren't for age, the language barrier and other practical considerations there are a dozen countries I'd be prouder to call home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Personal freedom and democracy both peaked about thirty years ago in the US -- since then there has been a retrenchment as the oligarchy has advanced the freedom to amass infinite wealth at the expense of all others freedoms.

    After decades of corporate bribery and jeremiads by Cato, Heritage, the WSJ and the other organs of the GOP, the US now emphasizes the type of freedom embodied by the statement "all are equal before the law: rich and poor alike are prohibited from sleeping under bridges."

    In terms of civil liberties, rights of expression and assembly, press freedom, workers' freedom to organize, etc, we typically rank somewhere in the mid to high teens, behind the usual suspect more freed countries: Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany, and the various small fry (Benelux, etc).

    In terms of effective freedom, taking into consideration the realities of inequality and social mobility and their suppression of personal flourishing, we are down in the 30s behind almost the entire developed world. We are a great country to be rich in. Poor? Not so much. Better than the undeveloped world certainly, so we'll continue to attract tidal waves of immigrants. But if it weren't for age, the language barrier and other practical considerations there are a dozen countries I'd be prouder to call home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    That's... insane.
    In parts of Switzerland you don't have sanitation fees- but you do have to buy special red garbage bags. If you put out garbage in any other bag, they will dig through until they find something to ID you with and then fine you.

    Works amazingly well.

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    More sedate matters, but a lot more fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    In parts of Switzerland you don't have sanitation fees- but you do have to buy special red garbage bags. If you put out garbage in any other bag, they will dig through until they find something to ID you with and then fine you.

    Works amazingly well.
    That's also... insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    That's also... insane.
    Why? There are basically two economically feasible ways to bill your citizens for their garbage collection. Either you bill a flat fee, like we do here in the cities where garbage is handled by the government, where we're charged $X for up to Y volume of garbage, or you charge on a per unit basis - by the bag.

    By the bag is basically a lot like the toll road philosophy, and would be cheaper for people like me.

    I like it better than charging anyone with a TV for a programming service they may not use, a la the UK and the annual BBC fee.
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