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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    If staying open on Sunday offers no increase in sales why would it be required to remain competitive with those that make the choice?
    No, it's consistent. Alcohol sales overall stay the same whether alcohol is sold on 6 or 7 days, but if you are closed and I am open I will steal some of your sales.

    Now truth be told there would be differences in the distribution of alcohol sales with Sunday either being open or closed. Distributors closer to residences will do better with Sunday open; distributors near places of employment will do better with Sunday closed.
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    Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!

    If I still sell the same X Mon - Sat how are you stealing anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    If I still sell the same X Mon - Sat how are you stealing anything?
    You won't sell the same amount. The idea of stable sales is that people will buy the same amount of alcohol whether the state is limited to 6 or 7 sales days -- you don't miss out on Sunday sales because nobody is open, so customers have to fuel up more extra on the other days. But if the state has 7 days and those sales are spread over all 7, you will miss out on the Sunday sales.

    This isn't complicated, I just am not being clear I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    You won't sell the same amount. The idea of stable sales is that people will buy the same amount of alcohol whether the state is limited to 6 or 7 sales days -- you don't miss out on Sunday sales because nobody is open, so customers have to fuel up more extra on the other days. But if the state has 7 days and those sales are spread over all 7, you will miss out on the Sunday sales.

    This isn't complicated, I just am not being clear I guess.
    No, you are being clear.

    Aggregate sales won't increase. But some amount of Monday-Saturday sales will shift to Sunday. And if you aren't open on Sunday, someone else will steal those from you. The industry sees no changes, but individual stores may.
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    Except sales WILL increase. Currently (especially during FB season) on Sunday a certain amount of sales are lost because people go to WI to buy thanks to Blue Laws. Those sales will now shift closer to home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Except sales WILL increase. Currently (especially during FB season) on Sunday a certain amount of sales are lost because people go to WI to buy thanks to Blue Laws. Those sales will now shift closer to home.
    Yeah, but I really don't think they're all that substantial when you look at the aggregate. Outside of the border towns, who's making those trips?
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    Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!

    Except every major population center in the state is next to a border. Save for St. Cloud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Except every major population center in the state is next to a border. Save for St. Cloud.
    Still, how far is someone willing to travel for some booze? Would you travel from Ham Lake to Wisconsin for some (insert readily available brand and style) beer that can be purchased from the store located 10 minutes from your house if you're willing to wait until Monday? The vast majority of people will wait until Monday.
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    Nope. I'd tell my buddy in oakdale to run and grab some booze for the game when he comes over.

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    Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!

    I was being intentionally argumentative on that point.

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    Your nation's capital subway system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    Still, how far is someone willing to travel for some booze? Would you travel from Ham Lake to Wisconsin for some (insert readily available brand and style) beer that can be purchased from the store located 10 minutes from your house if you're willing to wait until Monday? The vast majority of people will wait until Monday.
    I have never seen definitive numbers, but it is not miniscule. Hell I know plenty of people that have done that on more than one occasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I was being intentionally argumentative on that point.
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    They used to fine you for not attending church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    They used to fine you for not attending church.

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    At first blush, that would violate the First Amendment. Not voting can be seen as a method of speech, a protest against the current candidates on the ballot. It could also be seen as punishing those who intended to vote but some issue arose that prevented them from making it to their polling location - family emergency, car broke down, meeting a beautiful redheaded woman with large bosoms while getting hammered at the bar just before going to vote, etc..
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    meeting a beautiful redheaded woman with large bosoms while getting hammered at the bar just before going to vote, etc..
    Bars aren't open on Election Day so Dr. Mrs. wouldn't be there.
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    There's now a bill in the Michigan State House that would prevent cops from having sex with prostitutes.

    Apparently, this is a concern. This is a higher priority than Flint having clean water.

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    There's now a bill in the Michigan State House that would prevent cops from having sex with prostitutes.

    Apparently, this is a concern. This is a higher priority than Flint having clean water.
    I think I read that it's the only state where that isn't already illegal. I'm sure it has to do with entrapping hookers. A very, very compelling state interest.
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    Re: The States. It's 10th Amendment or bust!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
    There's now a bill in the Michigan State House that would prevent cops from having sex with prostitutes.

    Apparently, this is a concern. This is a higher priority than Flint having clean water.
    Of course it's higher priority. How could sex between consenting adults possibly be less important than clean water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Of course it's higher priority. How could sex between consenting adults possibly be less important than clean water?
    While they are on the job could be a problem. Off duty? Ignore it.

    Legalize prostitution, regulate it, and tax the hell out of it.

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