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    Re: 2017 NCAA tournament selection thread

    Quote Originally Posted by KRBFLINT03 View Post
    Good enough to reach Utica, and untested enough to lose in the NEHC tourney. Honestly, if they grinded their way to a national title (and it would have to be a grind), I would be surprised, but not shocked. I also would not be shocked if they bowed out in the first round.

    I believe I will be watching them in Utica, but we'll see
    I believe enough to have (with the option to cancel) hotel reservations in Utica.
    The "Miracle" was winning the Gold Medal Game against the Finns. I'm biased, I was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spwood View Post
    Any seeding discussion involving Oswego is probably moot anyway as it's almost assured they would be grouped with Adrian and Hobart no matter what their seeding is. That said, I think Norwich is the clear #1 in the east right now.
    Nothing is assured, if a team that isn't Adrian, or St Norbert wins the NCHA, Oswego may be playing more Eastern teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUProf View Post
    And ultimately it doesn't matter. Assuming both teams are in the NCAA tournament, the proof will be in who has the better showing. The regional rankings are for two reasons - regional seedings and at large selection. Seedings to me is a false issue. If you are good enough, it doesn't matter whether you are #1E or #2E. To say "we didn't win because we got too low a seed" is just plain foolish whether you play a top team in the first round or in the finals what matters is winning the game ahead of you. You don't need validation from a committee - you just need to win games. There will ultimately be 11 losers and 1 winner in the NCAAs. If Oswego is not in the field, that means they lost somewhere along the line. If Norwich is not in the field it means they lost somewhere along the line.

    The rankings are determined according to the NCAA guidelines. Learn them - live with them.
    While the old cliche "If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best." generally applies, there's no reasonable way in the world to discount the seedings as insignificant.

    A 1st-round bye, and then staying home for the next game, is a huge advantage. No two ways about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    While the old cliche "If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best." generally applies, there's no reasonable way in the world to discount the seedings as insignificant.

    A 1st-round bye, and then staying home for the next game, is a huge advantage. No two ways about it.
    Chances are 1E and 2E both get a bye, and he was talking about the distinction between those seeds. I will agree with you, a bye is huge. But he is also correct in saying that the exact seed is insignificant.

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    Re: 2017 NCAA tournament selection thread

    Remember folks, Adrian owes the NCAA some suspensions.

    Now who's in? Who's praying for favorable results from future games to get in?

    MASCAC - AQ and that's it
    CCC - AQ only
    NESCAC - right now AQ only. May change based on Tuesday's rankings.
    NEHC - Norwich is in. NEC needs to win.
    SUNYAC - Oswego is in. Platty looks like it needs a W.
    NCHA - SNC and Adrian appear to be locks.
    MIAC - AQ

    The loser of Pool B looks like a Pool C. That's two taken. Who is fighting or praying for the remaining 2 slots??
    Last edited by joecct; 02-26-2017 at 10:22 AM.

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    Re: 2017 NCAA tournament selection thread

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    Remember folks, Adrian owes the NCAA some suspensions.
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    Re: 2017 NCAA tournament selection thread

    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Remember folks, Adrian owes the NCAA some suspensions.

    Now who's in? Who's praying for favorable results from future games to get in?

    MASCAC - AQ and that's it
    CCC - AQ only
    NESCAC - right now AQ only. May change based on Tuesday's rankings.
    NEHC - Norwich is in. NEC needs to win.
    SUNYAC - Oswego is in. Platty looks like it needs a W.
    NCHA - SNC and Adrian appear to be locks.
    MIAC - AQ

    The loser of Pool B looks like a Pool C. That's two taken. Who is fighting or praying for the remaining 2 slots??
    Does Plattsburgh really even have a real chance at all for a bid?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CardFan View Post
    Does Plattsburgh really even have a real chance at all for a bid?


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    Yes. If they win Saturday they have a 100% chance to get a bid

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
    Yes. If they win Saturday they have a 100% chance to get a bid
    Lol! No man I get that! Just was thinking realistically no out side of there but was left a tiny bit open above!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CardFan View Post
    Does Plattsburgh really even have a real chance at all for a bid?


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    I'd say they have a 50/50 shot of getting in

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardFan View Post
    Lol! No man I get that! Just was thinking realistically no out side of there but was left a tiny bit open above!


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    Not unless the Russians hack the selections

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
    Not unless the Russians hack the selections
    With Canadian aid.

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    Re: 2017 NCAA tournament selection thread

    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Remember folks, Adrian owes the NCAA some suspensions.

    Now who's in? Who's praying for favorable results from future games to get in?

    MASCAC - AQ and that's it
    CCC - AQ only
    NESCAC - right now AQ only. May change based on Tuesday's rankings.
    NEHC - Norwich is in. NEC needs to win.
    SUNYAC - Oswego is in. Platty looks like it needs a W.
    NCHA - SNC and Adrian appear to be locks.
    MIAC - AQ

    The loser of Pool B looks like a Pool C. That's two taken. Who is fighting or praying for the remaining 2 slots??
    For the WIAC.... no auto bid. Does Point get in even if it loses to Eau Claire - instead of Eau Claire?
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    Re: 2017 NCAA tournament selection thread

    Quote Originally Posted by GB Puck Fan View Post
    For the WIAC.... no auto bid. Does Point get in even if it loses to Eau Claire - instead of Eau Claire?
    Yes, no question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OSU2010 View Post
    I'd say they have a 50/50 shot of getting in
    Without a win to get the SUNYAC AQ, they are not ranked now, and not likely to be with another loss. In other words they are toast if the don't beat Oswego.
    The "Miracle" was winning the Gold Medal Game against the Finns. I'm biased, I was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB Puck Fan View Post
    For the WIAC.... no auto bid. Does Point get in even if it loses to Eau Claire - instead of Eau Claire?
    At 20-5-3, with a .521+ SOS, I would think so.
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    The "Miracle" was winning the Gold Medal Game against the Finns. I'm biased, I was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
    Yes. If they win Saturday they have a 100% chance to get a bid
    Champs, yes... ( And they'd be so close in the KRACH to an AL bid at that point that even I wouldn't even complain. )

    No mistake, Utica needs Oswego to win that one, but what a 2nd-half by Plattsburgh. A very impressive run down the stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peddler View Post
    At 20-5-3, with a .521+ SOS, I would think so.
    Will be more like a .510+

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    Re: 2017 NCAA tournament selection thread

    Have you folks seen this from the final NJCAA hockey championship game ever yesterday?

    https://www.google.com/amp/ftw.usato...randon-day/amp

    This kid looks like he can barely skate. He was arrested after the game.
    Last edited by altazo; 02-27-2017 at 12:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altazo View Post
    Have you folks seen this from the final NJCCA hockey championship game ever yesterday?

    https://www.google.com/amp/ftw.usato...randon-day/amp

    This kid looks like he can barely skate. He was arrested after the game.
    Sounds like something straight out of Last Chance U.
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