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    Our last thread ended with Handy saying:
    Dude your little love affair with the 2nd Amendment is ridiculous. There are way more important issues and standards than what a Justice thinks about guns.

    Garland was a guy Republicans liked until Obama liked him. Just because he doesnt get alll tingly when he strokes an Uzi should have zero to do with whether he can be on the SC.
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    Re: Power of the SCOTUS IX: The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the SCOTUS nine that day

    The only reason Garland didn't get a vote was because he was nominated by Blackpoleon Blackaparte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    The only reason Garland didn't get a vote was because he was nominated by Blackpoleon Blackaparte.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    The only reason Garland didn't get a vote was because he was nominated by Blackpoleon Blackaparte.
    What happened to Blackula?
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    Re: Power of the SCOTUS IX: The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the SCOTUS nine that day

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    The only reason Garland didn't get a vote was because he was nominated by Blackpoleon Blackaparte.
    Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...partisanship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    The only reason Garland didn't get a vote was because he was nominated by Blackpoleon Blackaparte.
    Sounds like the next Hamilton to me! Mike Pence should probably not attend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armadillo View Post
    Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...partisanship.
    The kind of partisanship that says Obama was secretly a Muslim from Kenya trying to establish a caliphate in the US, maybe.

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    Last I heard, this was still going to be blocked by the Senate...
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    Re: Power of the SCOTUS IX: The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the SCOTUS nine that day

    Putting Garland's nomination aside, would anyone on here be very upset with the balance if Gorsuch is confirmed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Putting Garland's nomination aside, would anyone on here be very upset with the balance if Gorsuch is confirmed?
    What is with you and this balance? Nothing says it has to be 5-4 conservative for Christ sake. As someone already said, Scalia replaced burger. You'd have no issue with a fundie zealot replacing Ginsburg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    What is with you and this balance? Nothing says it has to be 5-4 conservative for Christ sake. As someone already said, Scalia replaced burger. You'd have no issue with a fundie zealot replacing Ginsburg
    That's actually a good test. If a liberal dies, would Drew oppose a conservative judge?

    Well, Drew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    That's actually a good test. If a liberal dies, would Drew oppose a conservative judge?

    Well, Drew?
    Absolutely. I actually think Garland would be a good replacement for Ginsburg or Breyer if they were to get done during Trump's administration. I don't want to see Roe V Wade overturned.

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    Re: Power of the SCOTUS IX: The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the SCOTUS nine that day

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Absolutely. I actually think Garland would be a good replacement for Ginsburg or Breyer if they were to get done during Trump's administration. I don't want to see Roe V Wade overturned.
    your president and GOP congress does, and I don't think they will nominate someone like Garland to replace Ginsburg (May she live to be 120, Flying Spaghetti Monster willing). They won't be happy until they have a one sided court.

    Garland wasn't going to take your guns away. At some point you need to step back into reality and give a **** about something else besides guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    your president and GOP congress does, and I don't think they will nominate someone like Garland to replace Ginsburg (May she live to be 120, Flying Spaghetti Monster willing). They won't be happy until they have a one sided court.

    Garland wasn't going to take your guns away. At some point you need to step back into reality and give a **** about something else besides guns.
    Trump could care less and it's not going to happen. He's pro abortion anyway. I don't want a one sided court, either way. If Garland replaced Scalia it would very much have been one sided.

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    Re: Power of the SCOTUS IX: The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the SCOTUS nine that day

    The makeup is 4-4 anyone would unbalance the Court.

    Garland, who was named by GOP Senators as a good candidate up until the rumor started he would be nominated by Obama, would have unbalanced the court liberal though...that is your contention? Besides guns how can you possibly justify that belief?

    I have a question for Rube if he reads this thread. Leaving aside the "two wrongs dont make a right" idea, if the Senate Dems decided to block the nomination (GOP style) and obstruct would you defend their right to do so? Obstructionism, as we have seen for the last 6 years is a perfectly legal method to gum up the works and make sure nothing gets done and even though it is annoying as hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    The makeup is 4-4 anyone would unbalance the Court.

    Garland, who was named by GOP Senators as a good candidate up until the rumor started he would be nominated by Obama, would have unbalanced the court liberal though...that is your contention? Besides guns how can you possibly justify that belief?

    I have a question for Rube if he reads this thread. Leaving aside the "two wrongs dont make a right" idea, if the Senate Dems decided to block the nomination (GOP style) and obstruct would you defend their right to do so? Obstructionism, as we have seen for the last 6 years is a perfectly legal method to gum up the works and make sure nothing gets done and even though it is annoying as hell.
    It's very borderline 4-4 though. It is by no means a given Kennedy will side with the conservatives, and Roberts can flip as well. The four liberal judges almost never flip.

    I believe there is nothing that says there needs to be nine justices. Trump could let it get down to five or nominate 10 new justices right now if he wanted to.

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    And this is why elections matter and it's why the Republicans win. Trump has shat on the Statue and the Constitution all week but with this pick he is revered. Obama pleaded with the public on the campaign trail that his legacy was on the line and people didn't vote. They'll protest at Chuck Schumer's home, but they won't vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I believe there is nothing that says there needs to be nine justices.
    Acts of Congress determine the maximum number of Justices.

    The U.S. Constitution established the Supreme Court but left it to Congress to decide how many justices should make up the court. The Judiciary Act of 1789 set the number at six: a chief justice and five associate justices. In 1807, Congress increased the number of justices to seven; in 1837, the number was bumped up to nine; and in 1863, it rose to 10. In 1866, Congress passed the Judicial Circuits Act, which shrank the number of justices back down to seven and prevented President Andrew Johnson from appointing anyone new to the court. Three years later, in 1869, Congress raised the number of justices to nine, where it has stood ever since. In 1937, in an effort to create a court more friendly to his New Deal programs, President Franklin Roosevelt attempted to convince Congress to pass legislation that would allow a new justice to be added to the court—for a total of up to 15 members—for every justice over 70 who opted not to retire. Congress didn’t go for FDR’s plan.
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    Re: Power of the SCOTUS IX: The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the SCOTUS nine that day

    Gorsuch is one of those judges whose writing consistently sets limits on Executive Power, and restricts interpretation of vaguely-worded criminal statutes that might inadvertently trap innocent people.

    That seems like a good thing, no?

    if a judge's role is to interpret existing law, why would his personal politics matter at all?
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