Atlantic Hockey

[schiegs]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

I can't stand the "everyone gets an invite" tournament model. Smacks of "everyone gets a trophy." Nevermind that it also diminishes the point of playing a regular season, and eliminates any excitement to the end of the regular season for the bottom dwellers.

[Nosmo King]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

We all know it's not about the excitement. It's about the $$$$$'s.

[joecct]

We all know it's not about the excitement. It's about the $$$$$'s.

If the students are on vacation, there is no excitement and no $$.

[Snively65]

I can't stand the "everyone gets an invite" tournament model. Smacks of "everyone gets a trophy." Nevermind that it also diminishes the point of playing a regular season, and eliminates any excitement to the end of the regular season for the bottom dwellers.

Historical question: has an AHC regular season bottom dweller ever made it to the tourney?

[LtPowers]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

I can't stand the "everyone gets an invite" tournament model. Smacks of "everyone gets a trophy." Nevermind that it also diminishes the point of playing a regular season, and eliminates any excitement to the end of the regular season for the bottom dwellers.

Not even remotely the same.

Making the conference tournament is not a reward for good play. It's a method of determining the conference champion. That's all. Every team has a shot at it, weighted by their performance in the regular season.

The regular season is still vitally important, as seeding matters and every team wants a home series.

The end of the regular season is still very exciting as teams jockey for playoff position and try to enter the tournament on a roll. A team eliminated from the postseason with three weeks to go is one that has nothing to play for.


Powers &8^]

[cetihcra]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

Atlantic Hockey and HEA should get together and form a relegation system? UMasssssss gets replaced by Air Force next year, and so on and so forth.

r

[schiegs]

Atlantic Hockey and HEA should get together and form a relegation system? UMasssssss gets replaced by Air Force next year, and so on and so forth.

r

Love this.

[schiegs]

Not even remotely the same.

Making the conference tournament is not a reward for good play. It's a method of determining the conference champion. That's all. Every team has a shot at it, weighted by their performance in the regular season.

The regular season is still vitally important, as seeding matters and every team wants a home series.

The end of the regular season is still very exciting as teams jockey for playoff position and try to enter the tournament on a roll. A team eliminated from the postseason with three weeks to go is one that has nothing to play for.


Powers &8^]

Are you saying that a game that determines the 9 vs. 10 seed is just as exciting as the game that determines 8 vs. playing golf at the local municipal course next weekend? A 10 seed doesn't deserve the chance to even compete for a conference championship. And buckle up for the riveting excitement that comes from teams "trying to enter the tournament on a roll"? Really?

[Snively65]

Atlantic Hockey and HEA should get together and form a relegation system? UMasssssss gets replaced by Air Force next year, and so on and so forth.

r

HEA just happy to be rid of Notre Dame.

[TigerFan86-87]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

Historical question: has an AHC regular season bottom dweller ever made it to the tourney?

No
Without looking it up, I don't remember any team seeded below 5th or 6th winning the championship (RIT won from the 5 seed in 2016). I do know the last place team has not won yet.

[LtPowers]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

Are you saying that a game that determines the 9 vs. 10 seed is just as exciting as the game that determines 8 vs. playing golf at the local municipal course next weekend?

Maybe not. But what you're missing is that the elimination game still takes place; it just takes place during the tournament. So the "game that determines the 9 vs. 10 seed" is in addition to the game that will send one team to the golf course. That's more excitement, more meaningful games. Win-win.

I also note you failed to address the early-elimination problem.

A 10 seed doesn't deserve the chance to even compete for a conference championship.

Why?


Powers &8^]

[Snively65]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

No
Without looking it up, I don't remember any team seeded below 5th or 6th winning the championship (RIT won from the 5 seed in 2016). I do know the last place team has not won yet.

Thanks, TigersFan. I remembered that your team came from 5th in 2016 to win it all, but I am still racking my brain for a team(s) that even made it to the tourney from near the bottom; must be a few, I would think.

[TigerFan86-87]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

Thanks, TigersFan. I remembered that your team came from 5th in 2016 to win it all, but I am still racking my brain for a team(s) that even made it to the tourney from near the bottom; must be a few, I would think.

Now I've looked it up. In MAAC / Atlantic Hockey history, the championships by seed are as follows:
# 1 seed - 7 times (none since 2011-12 - NU)
# 2 seed - 5 times (only one since 2010-11 - AFA this year)
# 3 seed - 2 times
# 4 seed - 1 time (1999-2000 - UConn)
# 5 seed - 3 times (twice in the last four years - 2016 RIT & 2014 RMU)
# 6 seed - 0
# 7 seed - 1 time (Canisius in 2012-13, also the only year AHC earned an at-large - NU)
# 8 and up - 0

A few lower seeds have reached the BCA (and wherever the final four was held back in the MAAC days), but only Canisius won out.

[Snively65]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

Now I've looked it up. In MAAC / Atlantic Hockey history, the championships by seed are as follows:
# 1 seed - 7 times (none since 2011-12 - NU)
# 2 seed - 5 times (only one since 2010-11 - AFA this year)
# 3 seed - 2 times
# 4 seed - 1 time (1999-2000 - UConn)
# 5 seed - 3 times (twice in the last four years - 2016 RIT & 2014 RMU)
# 6 seed - 0
# 7 seed - 1 time (Canisius in 2012-13, also the only year AHC earned an at-large - NU)
# 8 and up - 0

A few lower seeds have reached the BCA (and wherever the final four was held back in the MAAC days), but only Canisius won out.

Oh, that's right about 2012-2013! I think that if RMU had prevailed in the AHC tourney this season, Air Force may have squeaked in as an at-large).

[LtPowers]

Re: Atlantic Hockey

I think that if RMU had prevailed in the AHC tourney this season, Air Force may have squeaked in as an at-large).

Air Force would have been 15th in the PWR if they had lost the AHC final. With Robert Morris and Michigan Tech as auto-bids, only the top 14 teams would have made the tournament.

Cite: I had the same question. https://www.reddit.com/r/collegehock...out_air_force/


Powers &8^]