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  • #76
    Re: Atlantic Hockey

    Originally posted by Arafel View Post
    As for Bentley joining Hockey East, it won't happen. You'd need a women's program, and you don't have one.
    I know it won't happen haha. I don't think the new barn even meets the minimum seating requirements for Hockey East. However, expect a D-1 women's team at Bentley within the next 5 years. From what I've heard in conversations with "higher ups"... it is in the works

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    • #77
      Re: Atlantic Hockey

      Pipe dream schools for AHA 12th member.

      Buffalo : What a neat trio for rivalries
      Case Western : In CASE Cleveland wants to get in on the action.
      Post : D2 school starting hockey, second year of playing.
      LeMoyne : Another D2 school, and they could get the one up on Syracuse.
      Lehigh : Bethlehem and Allentown now have had an AHL team for a few years. Here is their next step.
      SUNY Albany : Get a rivalry with Union and RPI and put a tenant into the downtown rink now that they lost their AHL team.

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      • #78
        Re: Atlantic Hockey

        I would not be surprised to see SNHU make the jump to Div 1 in the next few years, as they have a new go-getter coach, and they have the rink capacity in Manchvegas for Hockey East.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Snively65 View Post
          I would not be surprised to see SNHU make the jump to Div 1 in the next few years, as they have a new go-getter coach, and they have the rink capacity in Manchvegas for Hockey East.
          They can't "jump" anymore unless they move the entire athletic program to D1.

          However, they can take advantage of the D2 exception (no national championship offered) and declare that they want to play with the big boys as a D2 hockey program (5 schollys IIRC).
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          • #80
            Re: Atlantic Hockey

            Originally posted by CornwallAce View Post
            Pipe dream schools for AHA 12th member.

            Buffalo : What a neat trio for rivalries
            Case Western : In CASE Cleveland wants to get in on the action.
            Post : D2 school starting hockey, second year of playing.
            LeMoyne : Another D2 school, and they could get the one up on Syracuse.
            Lehigh : Bethlehem and Allentown now have had an AHL team for a few years. Here is their next step.
            SUNY Albany : Get a rivalry with Union and RPI and put a tenant into the downtown rink now that they lost their AHL team.
            You forgot Navy. Reasons should be obvious. Beyond that, long and successful ACHA D1 and D2 club programs plus a relatively new on-campus rink that would be fine for league play.
            Last edited by Split-N; 07-21-2017, 09:12 PM.
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            • #81
              Re: Atlantic Hockey

              Picked this up off the "2017/2018 tranfers" thread.

              Niagara is picking up a couple of NCAA transfers on the defensemen side with Jared Brandt (Miami, Ohio Univ.) and James Roll (LSSU).
              Jared Brandt (1995), d-man, 6', 197 lbs, 33GP, 3G, 7A, 10 Pts. Miami Ohio 1 yr.
              James Roll (1993), d-man, 6'2", 190 lbs, 12GP, 1G, 1A, 2 Pts. LSSU 3 yrs.

              James Roll may be eligible for the 2017/2018 season.

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              • #82
                Re: Atlantic Hockey

                Originally posted by The Top Shelf View Post
                I know its been dead for a while, but expansion would solve annoying schedule discrepancy!

                Remember how close Navy was a few years ago? St. Anslem's (a self-proclaimed "hockey school") was close as well. Before the budget disaster put an end to it, Rhode Island was prepping to presumably use the AHA as a stepping stone to HE and join their other "big state schools" much like UConn did. Other natural fits could be Syracuse and Villanova. Syracuse might be a better fit for ECAC, but their women are already D-1 and they clearly have the resources. Villanova has a dominant club team and with the success of basketball driving revenue, they should be considered.

                I know it's not remotely likely, but a guy can dream! Hockey is growing in popularity, nation - and world - wide. I'm curious to see who you all think could be the next team to elevate their program to D-1? Not just fits for AHA, but anywhere? Oregon was in serious talks back when ASU stepped up. Who knows! I know its expensive, difficult to maneuver with title IX, but there will be more schools considering D-1 hockey.. who do you think will be the next team to take it to the next level?
                Sorry to bring up a dead thread here, but I heard some rumors about another conference realignment from some fairly knowledgeable people that could affect the conference.

                Air Force is projected to join its fellow service academies int eh Patriot League and AIC would move up from D2 to join, making it six members with hockey teams, thus forming a new conference (along with BU, Colgate, Army, and Holy Cross). The ECAC would split between Ivies (forming their own conference) and the other six, who would then join Atlantic Hockey. Could be interesting...
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                • #83
                  Originally posted by TimP View Post
                  Sorry to bring up a dead thread here, but I heard some rumors about another conference realignment from some fairly knowledgeable people that could affect the conference.

                  Air Force is projected to join its fellow service academies int eh Patriot League and AIC would move up from D2 to join, making it six members with hockey teams, thus forming a new conference (along with BU, Colgate, Army, and Holy Cross). The ECAC would split between Ivies (forming their own conference) and the other six, who would then join Atlantic Hockey. Could be interesting...
                  BU is not leaving Hockey East
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by CollegeHockeyRinkReport View Post
                    BU is not leaving Hockey East
                    Didn't we say the same thing about the WCHA?

                    If the Patriot League voted to form a hockey league, they'd have to.
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                    1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

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                    - Benjamin Franklin

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                    • #85
                      Re: Atlantic Hockey

                      Per that scenario that would result in Ivies w/ only 6 teams. If Colgate leaves that leaves 5 teams not 6. A NYS League (w/ Gate, Niagara, Canisius, RIT and the 4 Liberties would be more logical) But all highly unlikely as Liberties and Gate love the Ivy connection andhave no interest in Atlantic hockey. As one Liberty A.D. observed "it's all about the banners."
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                      • #86
                        Re: Atlantic Hockey

                        BU might not want to leave Hockey East, but it wouldn't be their call if the Patriot League gets six hockey members. Similarly, while the Liberties and Colgate like their "Ivy connection," if the Ivies form a hockey conference, the leftovers from the ECAC have no way to stop them.
                        1949, 2001, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2018

                        Boston College Hockey: It's just that we're better than you.

                        B Who? Oh, you mean "Sux 2 B.U."

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by TimP View Post
                          BU might not want to leave Hockey East, but it wouldn't be their call if the Patriot League gets six hockey members. Similarly, while the Liberties and Colgate like their "Ivy connection," if the Ivies form a hockey conference, the leftovers from the ECAC have no way to stop them.
                          Do you know for a fact the patriot league bylaws state they must sponsor a league? You're assuming the patriot league and the big10 operate the same way. Also the ivy fear mongering is kinda hilarious. Why would they do this now after 30 years?
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                          • #88
                            Re: Atlantic Hockey

                            Originally posted by UML Puck Hawk View Post
                            Do you know for a fact the patriot league bylaws state they must sponsor a league? You're assuming the patriot league and the big10 operate the same way. Also the ivy fear mongering is kinda hilarious. Why would they do this now after 30 years?
                            Wouldn't you think BU would have put it in the bylaws when they joined that they wouldn't join?
                            Yes I am the former member known as Zlax45

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                            • #89
                              Re: Atlantic Hockey

                              From Patriot League Bylaws:

                              E. If a regular member institution sponsors a sport for which the League conducts a
                              championship or regular in-season competition, the member institution must
                              participate in the League competition unless an exemption from participation has
                              been approved in advance by a majority of the Council of Presidents. The
                              following criteria for an exemption shall apply:
                              (1) An institution will be permitted to exempt no more than one sport from
                              League competition;
                              (2) Withdrawal of the sport under consideration will not jeopardize the
                              League’s automatic qualification or overall competitiveness;
                              (3) The institution will not align its program with another Division I
                              conference;
                              (4) The competitive experience is determined to be undesirable for studentathletes
                              from other League institutions due to facility or other competitive
                              limitations at the institution requesting the waiver; and
                              (5) The commitment to gender equity at the institution and in the League is not
                              compromised. [December 2001]

                              Make what you want of this but some items seem to be in BU's favor 1 and 4 and some against 2 and 3. Not sure about 5. One sport exemption(yes),if BU would be team #6 then they compromise the automatic qualifier, they would need to be an Independent much like Army in Football, not sure how Navy's football league affiliation fits in here but FBS vs. FCS could be a difference maker, the facility size at BU could be determined to be undesirable competitively however should Holy Cross play downtown that can't be used.


                              Also:

                              2. Criteria for League Sport Sponsorship
                              Six (6) full member institutions must sponsor a sport at the varsity level in order for it to be
                              added to the list of League sponsored sports outlined above in Article 1. [June 2002; rev.
                              2013]
                              3. Participation in Other Athletic Leagues
                              Members of the League shall resign from other athletic leagues governing competition in
                              the sports, which they shall play in the League. This requirement applies to those
                              affiliations, which would conflict with League competition and would not include
                              organizations such as those affiliated with the Eastern College Athletic Conference.


                              Seems like Colgate has an out but not BU.



                              However I think the original poster confused member American with American International and 6 teams would not be in play unless of course Navy steps up.
                              Last edited by BC/HE; 08-19-2017, 09:17 PM.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by BC/HE View Post
                                From Patriot League Bylaws:

                                E. If a regular member institution sponsors a sport for which the League conducts a
                                championship or regular in-season competition, the member institution must
                                participate in the League competition unless an exemption from participation has
                                been approved in advance by a majority of the Council of Presidents. The
                                following criteria for an exemption shall apply:
                                (1) An institution will be permitted to exempt no more than one sport from
                                League competition;
                                (2) Withdrawal of the sport under consideration will not jeopardize the
                                League’s automatic qualification or overall competitiveness;
                                (3) The institution will not align its program with another Division I
                                conference;
                                (4) The competitive experience is determined to be undesirable for studentathletes
                                from other League institutions due to facility or other competitive
                                limitations at the institution requesting the waiver; and
                                (5) The commitment to gender equity at the institution and in the League is not
                                compromised. [December 2001]

                                Make what you want of this but some items seem to be in BU's favor 1 and 4 and some against 2 and 3. Not sure about 5. One sport exemption(yes),if BU would be team #6 then they compromise the automatic qualifier, they would need to be an Independent much like Army in Football, not sure how Navy's football league affiliation fits in here but FBS vs. FCS could be a difference maker, the facility size at BU could be determined to be undesirable competitively however should Holy Cross play downtown that can't be used.


                                Also:

                                2. Criteria for League Sport Sponsorship
                                Six (6) full member institutions must sponsor a sport at the varsity level in order for it to be
                                added to the list of League sponsored sports outlined above in Article 1. [June 2002; rev.
                                2013]
                                3. Participation in Other Athletic Leagues
                                Members of the League shall resign from other athletic leagues governing competition in
                                the sports, which they shall play in the League. This requirement applies to those
                                affiliations, which would conflict with League competition and would not include
                                organizations such as those affiliated with the Eastern College Athletic Conference.


                                Seems like Colgate has an out but not BU.



                                However I think the original poster confused member American with American International and 6 teams would not be in play unless of course Navy steps up.
                                Would be good if Navy stepped up and joined AHC to bring back to 12 teams.

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