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  • #916
    Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    What is the difference between the latter terms?
    I'll say "Bill Gates".
    He has "health coverage"; it's his check book.
    There's no treatment he could need that he can't pay directly.

    I picked the extreme in Gates.
    There are many, many, many others that realistically only need a true catastrophic insurance coverage plan as they can provide their own coverage for most expenses.

    This "self-cover" most things, plus an insurance policy for just the catastrophic, major-medical stuff, the HSA model, is the model I thought we were moving toward as a nation.
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    • #917
      Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

      Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
      Because there shouldn't be a difference.
      Car care (maintenance, your mechanic or oil changer) and car insurance aren't the same.
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      • #918
        Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

        Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
        Because there shouldn't be a difference.

        Americans are starting to believe they have a right to health care

        That's the next fight. Not abortion, guns, or gays.
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        • #919
          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          What is the difference between the latter terms?
          There is a large strain of Republicans that believe health insurance means the same thing as auto insurance, while health coverage means universal health care.

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          • #920
            Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            Read it again. That's exactly what he said.
            But he's acting as if the GOP is supposed to be something more. It isn't -- it's an investment strategy for donors.
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            • #921
              Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              But he's acting as if the GOP is supposed to be something more. It isn't -- it's an investment strategy for donors.
              And the other side isn't a revenue stream for politically Left special interests (e.g. Planned Parenthood)?
              Dance with the one thats-brung-ya.
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              • #922
                Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                Originally posted by unofan View Post
                There is a large strain of Republicans that believe health insurance means the same thing as auto insurance, while health coverage means universal health care.
                To your first part, insurance is insurance.

                To your second part, yup. That's why the synonymous usage is only adding confusion to something that is far more heat than light.
                Last edited by The Sicatoka; 05-08-2017, 02:11 PM.
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                • #923
                  Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                  Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                  And the other side isn't a revenue stream for politically Left special interests (e.g. Planned Parenthood)?
                  Dance with the one thats-brung-ya.
                  Let's assume for a moment that each side has some sort of corrupt deal-making going on. I don't think they are remotely equivalent in the Age of Trump, but for a moment let's say they are.

                  There is still a huge difference in policy outcomes.

                  D is trying to fund benefits to the poor with taxes on the rich.

                  R is trying to fund tax cuts for the rich by withholding services from the poor.
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                  • #924
                    Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    Let's assume for a moment that each side has some sort of corrupt deal-making going on. I don't think they are remotely equivalent in the Age of Trump, but for a moment let's say they are.

                    There is still a huge difference in policy outcomes.

                    D is trying to fund benefits to the poor with taxes on the rich.

                    R is trying to fund tax cuts for the rich by withholding services from the poor.
                    You mean one side is trying to take from the other side. Stunned. Shocked.


                    PS - ... "assume" ... ... I'll assume the Sun to set later today as well.
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                    • #925
                      Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                      Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                      And the other side isn't a revenue stream for politically Left special interests (e.g. Planned Parenthood)?
                      Dance with the one thats-brung-ya.
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                      • #926
                        Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        rotflmao

                        Only one party actually pays for the laws they pass. Don't try to equate them.
                        How's paying for the Affordable Care Act going for the Dems?
                        The middle class, squeezed hard by it, well, Trumped the Dems.

                        So the answer to my question is: I'd say about as well as paying for Reagan's DOD build up in the 1980s went.
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                        • #927
                          Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                          Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                          How's paying for the Affordable Care Act going for the Dems?
                          The middle class, squeezed hard by it, well, Trumped the Dems.

                          So the answer to my question is: I'd say about as well as paying for Reagan's DOD build up in the 1980s went.
                          Uh, huh. And now the GOP is fixing Obamacare by giving an 880 billion dollar tax cut to the rich.

                          The two are not the same. So don't say they are. SIMPLE MATH.
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                          • #928
                            Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            Uh, huh. And now the GOP is fixing Obamacare by giving an 880 billion dollar tax cut to the rich.

                            The two are not the same. So don't say they are. SIMPLE MATH.
                            I think we're finding that the math is anything but simple when it comes to Obamacare these days.
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                            • #929
                              Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              I think we're finding that the math is anything but simple when it comes to Obamacare these days.
                              It's simple. We like planes, and boats, and bombs. There's always money. Paying for Health Care? Nothing there.
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                              • #930
                                Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                                The two are not the same. So don't say they are. SIMPLE MATH.
                                So you're saying the Ds didn't pay for it and now the Rs aren't paying for it.

                                The parties, heck, they could star in bad Geico commercials.

                                Rs get tax cuts for the rich. It's what they do.
                                Ds get funding for their special interests. It's what they do.
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