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  • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
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    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
    Originally posted by Kepler
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    • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

      Originally posted by rufus View Post
      ends Medicare
      Which is the endgame. Every day, Social Security and Medicare embarrass Republicans because they actually do what Republicans always claim giving their paymasters more money will do (but which never works). Their solution is not, of course, to re-examine their dogma. It's to destroy Medicare and then to mine Social Security as an even bigger heist than 2006.

      A popular, working government program is not permitted to exist in Knuckland because it exposes their lies.
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      • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

        FYI

        The White House rejects the CBO's conclusions.
        **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

        Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
        Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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        • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

          Originally posted by rufus View Post
          Yeah, it does matter. cause if the Republicans said "eff it", and put a bill through tomorrow that strips everything about Obamacare away, ends Medicare and Medicaid as we know it, and doubles the premiums of the old and anyone not in the 1%, it would go through this Congress in a heartbeat, and be the law of the land.
          What does that have to do with why a bunch of groups on opposite sides of the aisle oppose it? You are talking about something completely different.

          The bill will pass that isnt what anyone is discussing, we are all talking about the aftermath.
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          • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            FYI

            The White House rejects the CBO's conclusions.
            Well duh...they reject all facts :/
            "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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            • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

              Originally posted by Handyman View Post
              Well duh...they reject all facts :/
              You're talking about people who think whether evolution is true should be determined by the voters.
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              • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                FYI

                The White House rejects the CBO's conclusions.
                This became redundant the picosecond the CBO issued their report. The only reason they were out on the offensive this weekend was because a draft report was circulating behind the scene's most likely. Or the 24 million number was leaked ahead of time.

                Actually, that seems more likely since I didn't hear a peep about the deficit reduction. Rather, it was "THE CBO LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING!"

                Actually, I'm guessing it takes at least a modicum of intelligence to spin half the report while saying the CBO is a bunch of flaming liberals when it comes to the other half. It seems far more likely the GOP didn't know what to do so they decided to do what comes natural: They don't understand something so they toss it an anchor instead of a lifejacket.
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                Originally posted by SanTropez
                May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                Originally posted by Kepler
                When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                  Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                  So then, tell WHY and HOW globalism is as bad as you suggest.

                  I'm trying to point out the hypocrisy that has been followed, you claim not to be that way, which doesn't really jive with your posts- but that's your problem, not mine. You can't agree with yourself.

                  Anyway, answer my original question- How.

                  I'll point out that the US has multiple areas where we have come in, taken over, yet the local culture and identity is still very much in tact. Which flies in the face of your claim. So it will be interesting to hear how it's as evil as you claim.

                  edit- funny that you bring up how socialism punishes those who are successful- that wasn't any part of my point. Although, I see that just as an excuse to not be a full part of society- let the poor suffer because the don't "work as hard as you". Laughable. Many working poor actually work VERY hard. Just in low paying jobs- like harvesting your food. But since that's not a high value job, they somehow don't deserve simple things like healthcare.
                  There's a big difference between "not working as hard" and "not having an opportunity". Globalists want to remove the opportunity for anyone not in the "in-crowd" to prosper. They want to be the only ones in control. They want all of the wealth. They will use any means to accomplish this, from exorbitant regulations to selling off the internet to mass censorship. They will use anyone to accomplish the goals, from Muslim migrants to mainstream media to Antifa protesters, but the second any of these groups are no longer of use, you can believe they will be the first to go.

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                  • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                    What does that have to do with why a bunch of groups on opposite sides of the aisle oppose it? You are talking about something completely different.

                    The bill will pass that isnt what anyone is discussing, we are all talking about the aftermath.
                    And I'm talking the aftermath too. All those conservatives who hate the bill because it's too much like Obamacare will get on board with a hard-right strip everything away and blow up the system we have health care law. And then we're really screwed.
                    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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                    • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                      I was thinking about the healthcare bill and it struck me. The difference between liberals and conservatives is what they treasure more:
                      • $100 a year
                      • Ensuring 24 million of the poorest Americans are insured
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                      Originally posted by SanTropez
                      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                      Originally posted by Kepler
                      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                      • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                        My former boss, Andy slavitt, is the former head of Medicare now. Former because he was obama appointed.
                        His tweets lately are fantastic. I highly recommend

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                        • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                          I was thinking about the healthcare bill and it struck me. The difference between liberals and conservatives is what they treasure more:
                          • $100 a year
                          • Ensuring 24 million of the poorest Americans are insured
                          The irony is about half of those 24 million are Trump voters and the other half don't vote for anybody. Not sure how the f-cksticks think they're going to win elections if they kill their base.

                          Maybe the best outcome is just let it ride for one generation. Let the problem, er, take care of itself.
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                          • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                            I teach a class on the healthcare history of the US.i go into detail of how and why employer based plans came to be.

                            I'm also an unabashed single payer fan. That came from spending two years working on "socialist" systems.
                            I'm convinced that's the only answer, and that comes from a person deeply imbedded in our own complex plans.

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                            • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                              Originally posted by rufus View Post
                              And I'm talking the aftermath too. All those conservatives who hate the bill because it's too much like Obamacare will get on board with a hard-right strip everything away and blow up the system we have health care law. And then we're really screwed.
                              And so are they...their voters dont support this. That is the point we are making. It isnt about what some lame *** GOPer in Congress thinks...cause they dont. It matters what the people think and no one outside the 29%ers support this and even they dont fully.

                              Want more proof...why do you think Breitbart is going after Paul Ryan now? This is a losing gambit...this is Hitler going into Russia level stupid. Ryan has put forth a plan that will make Trump look even more awful than he already does. This is going to cause waves within the party that wont really be quantifiable for a while. Every GOPer that is challenged in the midterms is going to deal with this even if (as per usual) the Dems are lame in the midterms because the bread and butter (old white people) are the ones being bent over a barrel here. All those people that voted to protect the rights of the Average White Middle Class Voter are getting the shaft without any lube. They arent loyal to anyone but themselves...
                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                              -aparch

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                              • Re: The PPACA Thread Part IV - Repeal & Replace, or Something...

                                Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                                I teach a class on the healthcare history of the US.i go into detail of how and why employer based plans came to be.

                                I'm also an unabashed single payer fan. That came from spending two years working on "socialist" systems.
                                I'm convinced that's the only answer, and that comes from a person deeply imbedded in our own complex plans.
                                Then why are wait lines in the UK the longest they've ever been? What about single payer food systems like they have in Venezuela?

                                Single payer does not work. It is inefficient, especially on the scope of this country.

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