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    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    I have mixed emotions on the value of something like the Department of Education.

    Education has always been one of those weird areas of the U.S. where at least in my area has been funded at a very local level, but subject to rules and requirements that come from the State or Federal government. That creates hard feelings when the Feds come in and tell you how to run a school that you fund, not them.

    It also creates an opportunity for the feds to come up with ideas like No Child Left Behind. The road to he!! is paved with good intentions.

    The key will be to make sure that they identify the few important things the Department does handle, and make sure that gets reassigned to someone who will still see that it gets done.
    Well, the one thing we know for sure is there is a systemic dismantling of public education going on. We no longer fix, or take to account public education. Instead we seek to destroy it.

    I hope my kids kids can go to private school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Well, the one thing we know for sure is there is a systemic dismantling of public education going on. We no longer fix, or take to account public education. Instead we seek to destroy it.

    I hope my kids kids can go to private school.
    Well as long as they are white or can play sports they have a shot...

    Minneapolis Public Schools are going to take it in the shorts on this one,
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    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    I swear I read somewhere that Steve King has never authored a bill that's actually been signed into law.

    Edit: Found it. As of 2015, he'd never sponsored a bill that made it out of committee, let alone got signed into law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    He never had this Congress and this President.

    We're going to get a lesson, but I'm not sure what that lesson is going to be.

    Lesson A: Now that the Republicans can actually pass all the lunatic garbage they have proposed for decades, they will happily do so, and the ensuing social and economic tsunamai will make them the out party for the next 40 years, just like after they had total control in the 1920s.

    Lesson B: Now that the Republicans can actually pass all the lunatic garbage they have proposed for decades, they will recognize doing so is suicide, so they will hem and haw and claim they can't, and the orcs will finally recognize they are a fraudulent party and split off to form The Know Nothing Numb Nut Party, led by true believers like Ted Cruz, which will split the right down the middle and potentially actually end the Republican party, to be replaced by a whole new American party system.

    Lesson C: They'll do it, it will be a disaster, and nothing will change because their voters are simply too isolated from fact. Even when the consequences come to their own door, they will always find a way to blame Blacks, Libruls, and Feminazis. And so this torture will go on for decades.

    Lesson D: They'll do it, they were right, and the new American Millennium will be upon us, just as Jesus rides down to the rebuilt Temple on a unicorn that farts Iraqi WMD.
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    Mr. Carter created the Dept. of Education (doors opened circa 1980*).

    How'd we do things before the Dept of Education?


    *Yup, "War" and Treasury still call Education "noob" and give it noogies and wedgies and swirlies.
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    You're right, let's let the Republicans in Kansas and Mississippi teach our kids the 2+2 = carrot

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    You're right, let's let the Republicans in Kansas and Mississippi teach our kids the 2+2 = carrot
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    I have mixed emotions on the value of something like the Department of Education.

    Education has always been one of those weird areas of the U.S. where at least in my area has been funded at a very local level, but subject to rules and requirements that come from the State or Federal government. That creates hard feelings when the Feds come in and tell you how to run a school that you fund, not them.

    It also creates an opportunity for the feds to come up with ideas like No Child Left Behind. The road to he!! is paved with good intentions.

    The key will be to make sure that they identify the few important things the Department does handle, and make sure that gets reassigned to someone who will still see that it gets done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Mr. Carter created the Dept. of Education (doors opened circa 1980*).

    How'd we do things before the Dept of Education?


    *Yup, "War" and Treasury still call Education "noob" and give it noogies and wedgies and swirlies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Have we won a war since we merged Navy and War and created Defense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    "The bill repeals a specified rule that established certain nutrition standards for the national school lunch and breakfast programs. (In general, the rule requires schools to increase the availability of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and low-fat or fat free milk in school meals; reduce the levels of sodium, saturated fat, and trans fat in school meals; and meet children's nutritional needs within their caloric requirements.)"

    So not only will our kids be dumber, they will fatter and unhealthier too. But hey that will only disproportionately attack the broker school districts...cant see why that would be a problem. Those durn kids dont deserve to eat healthy anyways. They should tighten up their bootstraps and get a job or something!

    This bill, and this idea, is so bad it is almost as horrible as electing the Czar Urea.

    Kepler Lesson C is coming...there is no way this doesnt pass unless every Congressmen holds a townhall and gets destroyed.
    The big complaints coming from Republicans after the nutritional guidelines were passed during Pres. Obama's time in office were that they increased the cost of meals for the schools and students' families, and that a number of students were disposing of their meals without eating much of anything on their plates because they simply didn't taste good.

    I have no idea about the taste factor (though personal history tells me that schools didn't do well before this change), but it's easy to see the cost factor associated with requiring healthier lunches in the schools. People often complain that the cheapest ingredients can be found in fast food restaurants, and that's more or less what my schools were serving when I was that age - and they failed to meet McD's high standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    The big complaints coming from Republicans after the nutritional guidelines were passed during Pres. Obama's time in office were that they increased the cost of meals for the schools and students' families, and that a number of students were disposing of their meals without eating much of anything on their plates because they simply didn't taste good.

    I have no idea about the taste factor (though personal history tells me that schools didn't do well before this change), but it's easy to see the cost factor associated with requiring healthier lunches in the schools. People often complain that the cheapest ingredients can be found in fast food restaurants, and that's more or less what my schools were serving when I was that age - and they failed to meet McD's high standards.
    The difference in cost is nominal and is not any sort of real factor in the budgets of schools even in financially strapped districts. The cost is a complete red herring.

    Much like cutting the Arts...changes like this are all for show (see saving money!!) but if you actually dig into the numbers they have zero to do with the actual budgetary problems.

    (my gf teaches in a district that is having budget issues, she knows people at the top of the union and the school board...this isnt even the stuff they discuss when they are trying to solve their budget issues it is a huge nothingburger)
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    Kids were probably throwing them out because god forbid they eat a vegetable once in their life.
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    Thoughts on finding a new chair for the DNC?

    Ellison spoke well on why Trump won (remember, he called it early). Saying he won because he talked about jobs, infrastructure, free trade, etc. and that those are issues democrats used to win on and need to reclaim. Got hammered on 2nd amendment stuff. He's denying anti-gun quotes that it looks like he said (post debate fact-check, I guess). I did not like his closing argument. Basically, "Pick me because I raise a lot of money." Not the message I want to get behind.


    The South Bend mayor guy made some good points.


    What about Samuel Ronan? He's an outsider and seems to have his sh*t together. Said the primary system was rigged against Sanders and that the democratic party is outdated because there are many more independents now than before and the Dems excluded them from the process. Spoke very strongly about getting money out of politics, although good luck with that.

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    The Dems need to re-remember that all politics is local. Under DWS, the focus seemed to be on the White House and single issue politics. As a result, they got out generaled by the GOP at the local level and are losing the source of the DC replacement pool.

    We need 2 strong parties at all levels to keep things near the center. Without a vibrant GOP, California has gone nuts. Without a strong Democrat party, several Midwestern states are going off the rails in the opposite direction.

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    Boehner trolls the "REPEAL!1!!!" crowd

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    Dip**** R Congressman from Texas: "I can't meet with the public because Gabby Giffords!"

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    Dip**** R Congressman from Texas: "I can't meet with the public because Gabby Giffords!"
    In lieu of the censored word, think "coward" was what you were looking for.

    But he's definitely a dipsheet too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maizerage View Post
    dip**** r congressman from texas: "i can't meet with the public because gabby giffords!"

    gabby giffords: "i got shot on saturday morning. My office was open to the public on monday morning."
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    Boehner trolls the "REPEAL!1!!!" crowd

    Even in retirement, the hardcore conservatives are furious with him, natch.
    He's probably right. The Republicans are never going to agree on a replace, because they ran for 7 years on a repeal and actually have to replace now or infuriate people.
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