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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by BetterInLakePlacid View Post
    Ah, the old ad hom attack. Ignoring that, how many times does this need to happen? Whatever, go start some more fights with Finlandia. That sure was an impressive performance a few weeks ago. Piling up 120 penalty minutes or whatever in a 10-1 win is a surefire way to lay the groundwork for that national title that you should have won about six years ago. Reputations exist for a reason, they are earned, not contrived in the weak manner you attempted. Start owning it.
    Starting the fight with Finlandia? When our guy got knee'd (and their guy took the DQ)?

    As for the penalties we've got to deal with re: the NCAA tournament, get off your lazy *** and look at what I wrote regarding them. It's not too hard to find.

    UWSP and fans (and whoever got thrown out of the arena tonight after the hit...funny we've never had anything remotely like that in our barn) have absolutely no high ground to stand on here. Where are you going to take your ball and run to if WIAC schools become irrelevant again (like they did in the old NCHA)? ACHA club hockey?

    Yes. Reputations are earned. Ours isn't the best from an on-ice discipline standpoint. I've never made any bones about that. If you'd use your eyes instead of your keyboard, you'd see that. But no, you've earned your reputation on this board yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    Starting the fight with Finlandia? When our guy got knee'd (and their guy took the DQ)?

    As for the penalties we've got to deal with re: the NCAA tournament, get off your lazy *** and look at what I wrote regarding them. It's not too hard to find.

    UWSP and fans (and whoever got thrown out of the arena tonight after the hit...funny we've never had anything remotely like that in our barn) have absolutely no high ground to stand on here. Where are you going to take your ball and run to if WIAC schools become irrelevant again (like they did in the old NCHA)? ACHA club hockey?

    Yes. Reputations are earned. Ours isn't the best from an on-ice discipline standpoint. I've never made any bones about that. If you'd use your eyes instead of your keyboard, you'd see that. But no, you've earned your reputation on this board yourself.
    Hey look, it's an entire flock of non sequiturs. Impressive, though anything but surprising from someone with a reputation like yours.

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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    When called out re: the Finlandia game, you've got nothing. Typical.

    I'll put my reputation around here against yours. Every day of the week.

    PIMs this year:

    Adrian: 103 for 290 minutes, 112 of which were in one game.
    Opponents: 119 for 319, 127 of which were in one game.

    Take out the Finlandia debacle, and Adrian is at 178 PIMs in 11 other games (16.18/game). Our opponents would be at 192 PIMs, for 17.45/game.


    UWSP: 107 for 261
    Opponents: 98 for 238.

    UWSP has taken more penalties than their opposition. Hmmmm....

    You want to explain this game?

    http://collegehockeystats.net/1617/boxes/mstjwsp1.n12

    A headbutting AND a CTH? 32 minutes of game play apart?

    Glass houses and stones, my friend.
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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by BetterInLakePlacid View Post
    Adrian's reputation for clownish antics every time somebody dares to beat them are usually nothing more than being funny or sad, but now that they've upgraded to ending guy's careers I hope they're real proud of themselves. The league should add games on for that cowardly horse****, but fat chance on that one I'm sure. How many times do they need to embarrass themselves before things change? Then again when your coach is so out of control he's already been banned from the NCAAs, what can you do?
    Glad someone is speaking out about the lack of class from some involved with Adrian. Won't paint the whole team with the same brush but there are a few people involved with the team who should be looking real hard in the mirror and thinking about their immaturity and conduct this season and last. I used to enjoy watching the games because it was good hockey with relatively minor and few penalties. That isn't the case now. Hope someone steps up and gets some control back on the bench and on the ice before another player get seriously injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    When called out re: the Finlandia game, you've got nothing. Typical.

    I'll put my reputation around here against yours. Every day of the week.

    PIMs this year:

    Adrian: 103 for 290 minutes, 112 of which were in one game.
    Opponents: 119 for 319, 127 of which were in one game.

    Take out the Finlandia debacle, and Adrian is at 178 PIMs in 11 other games (16.18/game). Our opponents would be at 192 PIMs, for 17.45/game.


    UWSP: 107 for 261
    Opponents: 98 for 238.

    UWSP has taken more penalties than their opposition. Hmmmm....

    You want to explain this game?

    http://collegehockeystats.net/1617/boxes/mstjwsp1.n12

    A headbutting AND a CTH? 32 minutes of game play apart?

    Glass houses and stones, my friend.
    Now we're talking about reputations on message boards and whose are better? What is this? The third grade? Maybe you guys should meet behind the iron gate and settle this once and for all.

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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyfan777 View Post
    Glad someone is speaking out about the lack of class from some involved with Adrian. Won't paint the whole team with the same brush but there are a few people involved with the team who should be looking real hard in the mirror and thinking about their immaturity and conduct this season and last. I used to enjoy watching the games because it was good hockey with relatively minor and few penalties. That isn't the case now. Hope someone steps up and gets some control back on the bench and on the ice before another player get seriously injured.
    Not hard to figure out who you're shooting at there. As an aside, we took a hell of a lot more penalties in years past than we have the last couple.

    Funny how none of this comes out when we're winning....

    Frankly, I've got bigger issues 1) health, 2) goaltending, and 3) penalty kill. A .905 save percentage and a .794 PK isn't going to get us far, especially with SNC sitting there at .949 save % and .946 PK. Holy pants. (Note: it's also not hard to figure out who I'm shooting at there).

    This team is quite young (only 3 seniors), and the freshman are coming along very nicely, but maaan, we've got some work to do. And Adam and Co. know it.
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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nubs View Post
    Now we're talking about reputations on message boards and whose are better? What is this? The third grade? Maybe you guys should meet behind the iron gate and settle this once and for all.
    In my little home town it was the Water Tower. . Besides, it's easier to bomb throw from behind a computer instead of standing in front of players, coaches and parents and saying the same thing.
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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    All right. Are we done purse-fighting for the night? Is it out of everyone's system? Are we good now? (I suspect not, but we'll see...)

    There's a handful of games before the calendar flips to 2017, but I'm looking farther ahead. Right now, pure speculation (and I know better than this, but it's 1 AM here and I'm going to do it anyway), but here's a rough cut of where I think we're at re: NCAA's. Taking records from collegehockeystats:

    CCC - 1 bid (do they have their Pool A?)
    ECAC-W - Utica, maybe Hobart?
    MIAC - 1 bid
    NCHA- Adrian, SNC
    NEHC: Norwich
    NESCAC: 1 bid
    SUNYAC: Oswego, Buff St, Geneseo?
    WIAC - UWSP, UWEC (1 Pool B)
    NE10 - 1 bid

    Unless something really weird happens (and it usually does), upon initial look, we've got roughly 14 teams looking for 12 bids, yes?

    Tell me how full of **** I am here. I know I'm missing something.
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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyfan777 View Post
    Glad someone is speaking out about the lack of class from some involved with Adrian. Won't paint the whole team with the same brush but there are a few people involved with the team who should be looking real hard in the mirror and thinking about their immaturity and conduct this season and last. I used to enjoy watching the games because it was good hockey with relatively minor and few penalties. That isn't the case now. Hope someone steps up and gets some control back on the bench and on the ice before another player get seriously injured.
    Holy crap, I read that post and was like I didn't type that...Get your own name dude, I have been on here too **** long to have people mistake me for you....

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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    All right. Are we done purse-fighting for the night? Is it out of everyone's system? Are we good now? (I suspect not, but we'll see...)

    There's a handful of games before the calendar flips to 2017, but I'm looking farther ahead. Right now, pure speculation (and I know better than this, but it's 1 AM here and I'm going to do it anyway), but here's a rough cut of where I think we're at re: NCAA's. Taking records from collegehockeystats:

    CCC - 1 bid (do they have their Pool A?)
    ECAC-W - Utica, maybe Hobart?
    MIAC - 1 bid
    NCHA- Adrian, SNC
    NEHC: Norwich
    NESCAC: 1 bid
    SUNYAC: Oswego, Buff St, Geneseo?
    WIAC - UWSP, UWEC (1 Pool B)
    NE10 - 1 bid

    Unless something really weird happens (and it usually does), upon initial look, we've got roughly 14 teams looking for 12 bids, yes?

    Tell me how full of **** I am here. I know I'm missing something.
    Lot of hockey left to be played, but yeah that's a pretty good rough estimate right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    All right. Are we done purse-fighting for the night? Is it out of everyone's system? Are we good now? (I suspect not, but we'll see...)

    There's a handful of games before the calendar flips to 2017, but I'm looking farther ahead. Right now, pure speculation (and I know better than this, but it's 1 AM here and I'm going to do it anyway), but here's a rough cut of where I think we're at re: NCAA's. Taking records from collegehockeystats:

    CCC - 1 bid (do they have their Pool A?) yes they do.
    ECAC-W - Utica, maybe Hobart?
    MIAC - 1 bid
    NCHA- Adrian, SNC
    NEHC: Norwich
    NESCAC: 1 bid
    SUNYAC: Oswego, Buff St, Geneseo?
    WIAC - UWSP, UWEC (1 Pool B)
    NE10 - 1 bid

    Unless something really weird happens (and it usually does), upon initial look, we've got roughly 14 teams looking for 12 bids, yes?

    Tell me how full of **** I am here. I know I'm missing something.
    Drop NE-10 (ineligible) and add MASCAC (1 bid)

    1 pool B (ECAC-W or WIAC)
    4 pool C (figure loser of Pool B + 3 more). To get more than 1 bid, a conference needs 2 or 3 teams to runaway and hide. Having a parity conference does you no good for getting multiple teams into the NCAAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post

    As for the penalties we've got to deal with



    Yes. Reputations are earned. Ours isn't the best from an on-ice discipline standpoint. I've never made any bones about that. .
    With all due respect to you, Hammer, you've basically been saying the same thing in defense of Adrian going on 10 years now. They simply have shown no improvement in this regard since the programs inception.

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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyfan77 View Post
    Holy crap, I read that post and was like I didn't type that...Get your own name dude, I have been on here too **** long to have people mistake me for you....
    Holly cow, I did think it was you, and that just didn't fit. Thanks for pointing this out.
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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    Starting the fight with Finlandia? When our guy got knee'd (and their guy took the DQ)?

    As for the penalties we've got to deal with re: the NCAA tournament, get off your lazy *** and look at what I wrote regarding them. It's not too hard to find.

    UWSP and fans (and whoever got thrown out of the arena tonight after the hit...funny we've never had anything remotely like that in our barn) have absolutely no high ground to stand on here. Where are you going to take your ball and run to if WIAC schools become irrelevant again (like they did in the old NCHA)? ACHA club hockey?

    Yes. Reputations are earned. Ours isn't the best from an on-ice discipline standpoint. I've never made any bones about that. If you'd use your eyes instead of your keyboard, you'd see that. But no, you've earned your reputation on this board yourself.
    You mean like the 200 penalty minutes that UWSP committed after an Adrian player ended the career of a UWSP player on Saturday night? Wait, the Pointers only got a 2 minute bench minor after the hit and didn't retaliate like idiots? You mean there is a way to handle a situation differently? This is a shocker.
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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by BetterInLakePlacid View Post
    You mean like the 200 penalty minutes that UWSP committed after an Adrian player ended the career of a UWSP player on Saturday night? Wait, the Pointers only got a 2 minute bench minor after the hit and didn't retaliate like idiots? You mean there is a way to handle a situation differently? This is a shocker.
    The hit on Grauer was brutal..wonder if the NCHA steps in and extends the time off for the involved Adrian player..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete99race View Post
    The hit on Grauer was brutal..wonder if the NCHA steps in and extends the time off for the involved Adrian player..
    As long as there us video, conferences have been handing out suspensions for dangerous actions

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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by BetterInLakePlacid View Post
    You mean like the 200 penalty minutes that UWSP committed after an Adrian player ended the career of a UWSP player on Saturday night? Wait, the Pointers only got a 2 minute bench minor after the hit and didn't retaliate like idiots? You mean there is a way to handle a situation differently? This is a shocker.
    Wow ... I don't think I've seen a game sheet like this one in quite some time. I may have to fly out for any rematches.
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    UW-SP	06:45	Drew McLean: TRIPPING	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	09:29	Austin Hervey: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	09:29	Eliot Grauer: CROSS-CHECKING	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	14:25	Connor Armour: SLASHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	14:25	Drew McLean: CROSS-CHECKING	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	19:55	Brian Bachnak: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	19:55	Eliot Grauer: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	19:55	Eliot Grauer: UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	19:55	Brian Bachnak: UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	19:55	Jono Davis: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	19:55	Cory Dunn: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	19:55	Jono Davis: UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	19:55	Cory Dunn: UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	19:55	Stephan Beauvais: CROSS-CHECKING	MINOR	2 minutes
    -- 2nd --
    Adrian	00:57	Kevin Entmaa: TRIPPING	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	04:52	Cory Dunn: INTERFERENCE	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	08:38	Trevor Boyd: HIGH STICKING	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	16:56	Jacob Barber: ROUGHING THE GOALIE	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	16:56	Brian Bachnak: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	16:56	Baxter Kanter: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    -- 3rd --
    Adrian	04:09	Vincent Paquette: HIGH STICKING	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	12:30	Trevor Boyd: ROUGHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    UW-SP	17:07	Tanner Karty: SLASHING	MINOR	2 minutes
    Adrian	19:34	Connor Armour: CHECKING FROM BEHIND	MAJOR	5 minutes
    Adrian	19:34	Connor Armour: DISQUALIFICATION	MATCH	10 minutes
    UW-SP	19:34	TEAM: BENCH	MINOR	2 minutes

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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    As long as there us video, conferences have been handing out suspensions for dangerous actions
    Sure at the D1 level. When's the last time there's been a lengthy suspension issued by a D3 conference for an on ice penalty? In any case you'd think the light would go on at Adrian eventually. In the last 10 months alone they've been involved in an embarrassing thuggish display in an NCAA Tournament game, a march of 100+ minutes to the penalty box in a game they won 10-1 and now snapped a guy's leg like a twig because UWSP had the audacity to win the game. It seems like it's Adrian involved in every single one of these - they did it in Minneapolis (player lipping off to Gosek), they did it in Adrian, they did it in Hancock and now they've done it in Steven's Point. Other teams have their moments too but certainly not as on a consistent basis as Adrian. One wonders why a team so talented can't control themselves. I guess it's either coached or allowed to happen.

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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Nubs View Post
    Sure at the D1 level. When's the last time there's been a lengthy suspension issued by a D3 conference for an on ice penalty? In any case you'd think the light would go on at Adrian eventually. In the last 10 months alone they've been involved in an embarrassing thuggish display in an NCAA Tournament game, a march of 100+ minutes to the penalty box in a game they won 10-1 and now snapped a guy's leg like a twig because UWSP had the audacity to win the game. It seems like it's Adrian involved in every single one of these - they did it in Minneapolis (player lipping off to Gosek), they did it in Adrian, they did it in Hancock and now they've done it in Steven's Point. Other teams have their moments too but certainly not as on a consistent basis as Adrian. One wonders why a team so talented can't control themselves. I guess it's either coached or allowed to happen.
    SUNYAC just did it last week.

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    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Didnt see any of the doing's but I know the ref has to set the tone as well....Also after some time the refs will be quick to give out penalties,which will sooner or later cost your team wins,so the coach has to figure out what he is looking to do,win or mix it up??? As much I loved to mix it up as a player I MUCH rather win!!!!!!!
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