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  • #76
    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

    Originally posted by NU Pastime View Post
    Fair points. Other than maintaining that one can feel genuine remorse for an intentional action (which is the definition of the word), argument withdrawn.
    As in "how could I be so stupid to think that was a good idea." I've see the same kind of remorse from a student who got caught cheating on an exam. Did the student intend to cheat? Absolutely. Did they come to a realization that the choice to do so was regrettable? Absolutely. Are they still subject to the consequences? Absolutely.
    2007-2008 ECAC East/NESCAC Interlock Pick 'em winner
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    • #77
      Originally posted by NUProf View Post
      As in "how could I be so stupid to think that was a good idea." I've see the same kind of remorse from a student who got caught cheating on an exam. Did the student intend to cheat? Absolutely. Did they come to a realization that the choice to do so was regrettable? Absolutely. Are they still subject to the consequences? Absolutely.
      Exactly.
      Norwich '13

      2017-2018 Last Person Standing Champion

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      • #78
        I stand corrected

        Originally posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
        After the Finlandia brawl a couple weeks ago ...
        Holy Crap! I thought the Adrian/UWSP game was a doozie! Were any post-match penalties handed out by the NCHA for this fiasco??

        This is the type of event that would provide an administration serious consideration for dismantling an entire program. More like an old UHL score sheet. BTW ... from an outsider, there is a common factor in all three of these incidents.

        Code:
        Prd	Player	Team	Min	Infraction	Time 
2nd	Chuck Marcoe	FNL	2	Slashing	0:34 
2nd	Travis Cornwell	FNL	2	Cross-Checking	6:31 
2nd	Bud Madej	ADR	2	Hooking	10:44 
2nd	Michael Hoy	ADR	2	Holding	12:30 
2nd	Max Seiter	FNL	2	High-Sticking	20:00 
3rd	Matt Matyi	FNL	2	Slashing	2:46 
3rd	Connor Armour	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Connor Armour	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Connor Armour	ADR	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Connor Armour	ADR	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Trevor Boyd	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Trevor Boyd	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Trevor Boyd	ADR	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Trevor Boyd	ADR	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	V Paquette	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	V Paquette	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	V Paquette	ADR	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	V Paquette	ADR	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Braden Hellems	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Braden Hellems	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Braden Hellems	ADR	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Braden Hellems	ADR	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Bud Madej	ADR	5	Fighting	5:54 
3rd	Bud Madej	ADR	10	Disqualification	5:54 
3rd	Austin Hervey	ADR	10	Game Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Andrew Martin	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Andrew Martin	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Andrew Martin	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Andrew Martin	FNL	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Devin Smith	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Devin Smith	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Devin Smith	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Devin Smith	FNL	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	K Bolen-Porter	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	K Bolen-Porter	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	K Bolen-Porter	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Kl Bolen-Porter	FNL	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Danny Hill	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Danny Hill	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Danny Hill	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Danny Hill	FNL	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Alex Rezansoff	FNL	5	Fighting	5:54 
3rd	Alex Rezansoff	FNL	10	Disqualification	5:54 
3rd	Travis Cornwell	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	6:08 
3rd	Chuck Marcoe	FNL	2	Holding	7:41 
3rd	Cory Dunn	ADR	2	Slashing	9:51 
3rd	J Dahlquist	FNL	2	Hooking	10:28 
3rd	Brian Bachnak	ADR	2	Roughing	18:55 
3rd	Max Seiter	FNL	2	Roughing	18:55 
3rd	Max Seiter	FNL	2	Roughing	18:55 
3rd	Bryan Yim	ADR	5	Fighting	19:26 
3rd	Bryan Yim	ADR	10	Disqualification	19:26 
3rd	Bryce Mitzel	FNL	5	Fighting	19:26 
3rd	Bryce Mitzel	FNL	10	Disqualification	19:26 
3rd	Garrett Nichol	FNL	5	Kneeing	19:26 
3rd	Garrett Nichol	FNL	10	Disqualification	19:26 

New Records: Adrian 7-1-1, Finlandia 0-10-0

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        • #79
          Originally posted by elbojpb View Post
          Holy Crap! I thought the Adrian/UWSP game was a doozie! Were any post-match penalties handed out by the NCHA for this fiasco??

          This is the type of event that would provide an administration serious consideration for dismantling an entire program. More like an old UHL score sheet. BTW ... from an outsider, there is a common factor in all three of these incidents.

          Code:
          Prd	Player	Team	Min	Infraction	Time 
2nd	Chuck Marcoe	FNL	2	Slashing	0:34 
2nd	Travis Cornwell	FNL	2	Cross-Checking	6:31 
2nd	Bud Madej	ADR	2	Hooking	10:44 
2nd	Michael Hoy	ADR	2	Holding	12:30 
2nd	Max Seiter	FNL	2	High-Sticking	20:00 
3rd	Matt Matyi	FNL	2	Slashing	2:46 
3rd	Connor Armour	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Connor Armour	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Connor Armour	ADR	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Connor Armour	ADR	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Trevor Boyd	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Trevor Boyd	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Trevor Boyd	ADR	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Trevor Boyd	ADR	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	V Paquette	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	V Paquette	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	V Paquette	ADR	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	V Paquette	ADR	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Braden Hellems	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Braden Hellems	ADR	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Braden Hellems	ADR	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Braden Hellems	ADR	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Bud Madej	ADR	5	Fighting	5:54 
3rd	Bud Madej	ADR	10	Disqualification	5:54 
3rd	Austin Hervey	ADR	10	Game Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Andrew Martin	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Andrew Martin	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Andrew Martin	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Andrew Martin	FNL	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Devin Smith	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Devin Smith	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Devin Smith	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Devin Smith	FNL	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	K Bolen-Porter	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	K Bolen-Porter	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	K Bolen-Porter	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Kl Bolen-Porter	FNL	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Danny Hill	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Danny Hill	FNL	2	Roughing	5:54 
3rd	Danny Hill	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	5:54 
3rd	Danny Hill	FNL	10	Misconduct	5:54 
3rd	Alex Rezansoff	FNL	5	Fighting	5:54 
3rd	Alex Rezansoff	FNL	10	Disqualification	5:54 
3rd	Travis Cornwell	FNL	2	Unsportsmanlike Conduct	6:08 
3rd	Chuck Marcoe	FNL	2	Holding	7:41 
3rd	Cory Dunn	ADR	2	Slashing	9:51 
3rd	J Dahlquist	FNL	2	Hooking	10:28 
3rd	Brian Bachnak	ADR	2	Roughing	18:55 
3rd	Max Seiter	FNL	2	Roughing	18:55 
3rd	Max Seiter	FNL	2	Roughing	18:55 
3rd	Bryan Yim	ADR	5	Fighting	19:26 
3rd	Bryan Yim	ADR	10	Disqualification	19:26 
3rd	Bryce Mitzel	FNL	5	Fighting	19:26 
3rd	Bryce Mitzel	FNL	10	Disqualification	19:26 
3rd	Garrett Nichol	FNL	5	Kneeing	19:26 
3rd	Garrett Nichol	FNL	10	Disqualification	19:26 

New Records: Adrian 7-1-1, Finlandia 0-10-0
          2 or 3 scoresheets?
          CCT '77 & '78
          4 kids
          5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

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          - Benjamin Franklin

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          • #80
            Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            2 or 3 scoresheets?


            Just two, only 56 total penalties! In all my years of doing this I have only had to use two scoresheets 4 times....Never had to use 3

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            • #81
              Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

              Does anyone know if the NCHA gave out further suspensions to Adrian and Armour for this incident? It sounds like Krug did not coach on Saturday. Hopefully Hammer can shed some light on this situation as far as any extra punishment since everyone here knows his reputation is above reproach.

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              • #82
                Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

                Originally posted by Sir Nubs View Post
                Does anyone know if the NCHA gave out further suspensions to Adrian and Armour for this incident? It sounds like Krug did not coach on Saturday. Hopefully Hammer can shed some light on this situation as far as any extra punishment since everyone here knows his reputation is above reproach.
                Looks like the good folks over at D3Hockey.com figured it out since apparently no one in here wanted to talk about it. It also looks like the NCHA found clear and convincing evidence there was actual intent to injure despite what was originally claimed on here.

                http://d3hockey.com/releases/men/201...tal-discipline

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Sir Nubs View Post
                  Looks like the good folks over at D3Hockey.com figured it out since apparently no one in here wanted to talk about it. It also looks like the NCHA found clear and convincing evidence there was actual intent to injure despite what was originally claimed on here.

                  http://d3hockey.com/releases/men/201...tal-discipline
                  Wow! Hammer time (sorry!)!
                  CCT '77 & '78
                  4 kids
                  5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                  1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                  ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                  - Benjamin Franklin

                  Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                  I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Wow! Hammer time (sorry!)!
                    What does it mean for an entire program to be on probation? Do they forfeit games or their season as a whole if violated?

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Scott_TG View Post
                      What does it mean for an entire program to be on probation? Do they forfeit games or their season as a whole if violated?
                      I think another and the conference issues some sort of ban that will last a while. What Adrian does may mitigate the damages.
                      CCT '77 & '78
                      4 kids
                      5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                      1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                      ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                      I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                      • #86
                        Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

                        "Related, the league formally expressed concern with what it called the "culture" of the Adrian program."

                        I think that justifies just about everything people (except for one) have said on this thread.
                        Russell Jaslow
                        [Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
                        U.S. College Hockey Online

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                        • #87
                          Re: Games of 12/10:The team in the high Castle(ton}? Arby's and Genny! Ahhh!

                          Originally posted by joecct View Post
                          I think another and the conference issues some sort of ban that will last a while.
                          I'm thinking it could be a ban on conference postseason play, which would effectively (but not necessarily completely) eliminate them from NCAA play.
                          Russell Jaslow
                          [Former] SUNYAC Correspondent
                          U.S. College Hockey Online

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