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    Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

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    Now it's serious. It's happening to white people.
    Same thing with AIDS. Few people really cared until that sociopathic dentist in Florida in the late 80s found a way to deliberately infect a handful of his white, female patients. THEN, it was suddenly a national epidemic.

    No one actually does anything about a tragedy until it affects middle class white people. 'Twas ever thus.
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    Same thing with AIDS. Few people really cared until that sociopathic dentist in Florida in the late 80s found a way to deliberately infect a handful of his white, female patients. THEN, it was suddenly a national epidemic.

    No one actually does anything about a tragedy until it affects middle class white people. 'Twas ever thus.
    As a middle class white person I'd say that's mighty white of 'em.
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    Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    No one actually does anything about a tragedy until it affects middle class white people. 'Twas ever thus.
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    Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

    I guess it was only a matter of time. I imagine we'll eventually have real life Rollerball and The Running Man too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I guess it was only a matter of time. I imagine we'll eventually have real life Rollerball and The Running Man too.
    I knew exactly where you were going before I clicked it.

    We'll know we've reached the end game when the show promises immunity from the law.
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    Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I guess it was only a matter of time. I imagine we'll eventually have real life Rollerball and The Running Man too.
    I'm actually interested in this. Human behavior/sociology fascinates me. I'm not for the rapey/killing shock factor stuff, but am interested to see how people would react in this situation. They are willing participants, crimes will be prosecuted, so I guess let's roll the dice.

    If it was straight up Hunger Games stuff, no thank you, similar to what Kepler said about the end game.
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    Same thing with AIDS. Few people really cared until that sociopathic dentist in Florida in the late 80s found a way to deliberately infect a handful of his white, female patients. THEN, it was suddenly a national epidemic.

    No one actually does anything about a tragedy until it affects middle class white people. 'Twas ever thus.
    A good point, Fade, but the scope of ambivalence toward suffering is wider than that. I should hypertext this poem by W.H. Auden, but I don't know how do do that:

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    About suffering they were never wrong,
    The old Masters: how well they understood
    Its human position: how it takes place
    While someone else is eating or opening a window or just walking dully along;
    How, when the aged are reverently, passionately waiting
    For the miraculous birth, there always must be
    Children who did not specially want it to happen, skating
    On a pond at the edge of the wood:
    They never forgot
    That even the dreadful martyrdom must run its course
    Anyhow in a corner, some untidy spot
    Where the dogs go on with their doggy life and the torturer's horse
    Scratches its innocent behind on a tree.

    In Breughel's Icarus, for instance: how everything turns away
    Quite leisurely from the disaster; the ploughman may
    Have heard the splash, the forsaken cry,
    But for him it was not an important failure; the sun shone
    As it had to on the white legs disappearing into the green
    Water, and the expensive delicate ship that must have seen
    Something amazing, a boy falling out of the sky,
    Had somewhere to get to and sailed calmly on.

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    I think that poem is about something else. Not indifference, but the fact that even the most significant things are not universal. To me it's a hopeful message -- Big wheel keep on turnin'. Emerson has a poem about the day his child died. I won't quote it, it's awful and long like all Emerson's poems. It was a perfect, sun-drenched summer day, and all about was peace and life. The world -- even the human, non-natural world -- is not ambivalent towards suffering, it just has a lot of other stuff going on.

    BTW, thank you for quoting the poem. It's beautiful and interesting and I'm sure it can carry far more than just my interpretation.
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    Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I knew exactly where you were going before I clicked it.

    We'll know we've reached the end game when the show promises immunity from the law.
    Considering their car theft show didn't, I highly doubt it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I'm actually interested in this. Human behavior/sociology fascinates me. I'm not for the rapey/killing shock factor stuff, but am interested to see how people would react in this situation. They are willing participants, crimes will be prosecuted, so I guess let's roll the dice.

    If it was straight up Hunger Games stuff, no thank you, similar to what Kepler said about the end game.
    That's where I was going with my post - I think we'll eventually get there and sadly no one will blink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I think that poem is about something else. Not indifference, but the fact that even the most significant things are not universal. To me it's a hopeful message -- Big wheel keep on turnin'. Emerson has a poem about the day his child died. I won't quote it, it's awful and long like all Emerson's poems. It was a perfect, sun-drenched summer day, and all about was peace and life. The world -- even the human, non-natural world -- is not ambivalent towards suffering, it just has a lot of other stuff going on.

    BTW, thank you for quoting the poem. It's beautiful and interesting and I'm sure it can carry far more than just my interpretation.
    This response illustrates the value of the exchange of ideas. I'd never read the poem that way, perhaps distracted by its beauty, but I see your point. It certainly does not describe a cold, hard indifference--the language is too beautiful and peaceful, including the last phrase. Of all the metaphors in the poem, the expensive delicate ship sailing calmly on really fits your reading of it.
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    What. Is wrong. With people?
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    What. Is wrong. With people?
    Notice how they don't say anything about the assailant. After all, Black Lives Matter...
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    Notice how they don't say anything about the assailant. After all, Black Lives Matter...
    You don't think it could've been a white man who did the shooting?
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    You don't think it could've been a white man who did the shooting?
    A more local account of the incident, where they actually give a brief description of the assailant and ask for more information: http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog...t-of-road-rage

    Or is that now considered "fake news"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Notice how they don't say anything about the assailant. After all, Black Lives Matter...
    If that's what you take from this story I pity you.
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    If that's what you take from this story I pity you.
    It's called looking at a second source, especially a local one. Not to mention, European countries impose fines for calling out a person's "difference" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHVTM4Knwao ), so of course they're not going to tell you everything.

    Does this blanket a race? No. What it does do, however is show the double standard of reporting, how if this were white-on-black it'd be all over the place, whereas with the way it is, it's "panned", and only brought to attention by random folk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    It's called looking at a second source, especially a local one. Not to mention, European countries impose fines for calling out a person's "difference" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHVTM4Knwao ), so of course they're not going to tell you everything.

    Does this blanket a race? No. What it does do, however is show the double standard of reporting, how if this were white-on-black it'd be all over the place, whereas with the way it is, it's "panned", and only brought to attention by random folk.
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    Re: Nice Planet 13: This Planet Sucks

    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    A more local account of the incident, where they actually give a brief description of the assailant and ask for more information: http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog...t-of-road-rage

    Or is that now considered "fake news"?
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