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  • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

    Originally posted by hue-z View Post
    I did not get a definitive look, but no one, and I mean no one (players coach etc) said boo. Gotta believe if anybody thought it was in they'd be complaining.....LOUDLY. but not a peep. And by the way they have above the net views at scorers table....at least for comets. Could have been reviewed.
    I have never seen a review at a D-3 game, but the ref waved it off immediately anyway, and the only howls seem to come from the fans. My section was right on top of that, but it happened so fast... Wouldn't bet my life on it.

    Again, Hobart played the better game, in any case.

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    • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
      It wouldn't have been such a bitter pill today had Utica not dominated the OT as Hobart did the regulation... Literally, an inch or two, and I'd be singing a much happier tune right now.

      Having said that, Hobart was the better team today. Heenan was out-coached and UC was out-efforted. Perhaps a perfect storm tonight could result in Utica salvaging a bid anyway, but I seriously doubt it.
      Just the same, a good season. i predicted 16-18 wins, and got the latter. This team -if it remains intact- should be fine next year. Virtanen is the real deal, and all the crucial pieces are set to return. Just wish that Heenan could figure out how to win a big game once in a while.

      Geez Louise....where was that OT team during the game??!!?? Heenan must be trying rope a dope in regulation.

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      • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
        I have never seen a review at a D-3 game, but the ref waved it off immediately anyway, and the only howls seem to come from the fans. My section was right on top of that, but it happened so fast... Wouldn't bet my life on it.

        Again, Hobart played the better game, in any case.
        Absolutely they did. Mssr. Heenan, please take note.

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        • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

          Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
          I have never seen a review at a D-3 game, but the ref waved it off immediately anyway, and the only howls seem to come from the fans. My section was right on top of that, but it happened so fast... Wouldn't bet my life on it.

          Again, Hobart played the better game, in any case.
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          • Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
            Everyone I asked (all Utica fans, mind you) thought that the disallowed UC goal hit the back-post and rebounded out. The fact that it wasn't shown on replay supports that take on it. Did anyone get a definitive look?
            I saw post on the livestream, as did a friend at the game (We are Hobart fans, of course). I'm guessing the Aud has overhead goal cameras for the AHL but is video review done in-building and was that technology available for Utica? As far as I know, all the D-1 teams have video review.
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            • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

              Heartbreaker for sure, heck of a season though. They have a ton to be proud of this year and I'm already looking forward to next year. This team is pretty solid, Virtanen is for sure the real deal. Kid impressed a lot of people this year, myself included, especially with 40 saves on Saturday. Future is looking good for him and the rest of the team. We only lose 4 guys to graduation, and I'm assuming that due to his injury a few years ago, Bushinski has 1 year left of eligibility, he would've been a senior this year. Have to wait and see about any more recruits and whatnot over the off-season, but only a few things to tweak IMO for next year.
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              • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                Originally posted by UCfan30 View Post
                Heartbreaker for sure, heck of a season though. They have a ton to be proud of this year and I'm already looking forward to next year. This team is pretty solid, Virtanen is for sure the real deal. Kid impressed a lot of people this year, myself included, especially with 40 saves on Saturday. Future is looking good for him and the rest of the team. We only lose 4 guys to graduation, and I'm assuming that due to his injury a few years ago, Bushinski has 1 year left of eligibility, he would've been a senior this year. Have to wait and see about any more recruits and whatnot over the off-season, but only a few things to tweak IMO for next year.
                go to the USPHL site Utica has about 5 or 6 guys coming in from that league.

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                • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                  Hmmmmm...Company for the Aud ! http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...art_river_home


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                  • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                    Originally posted by Birdwatcher View Post
                    Oh jeez, not more of this junk. Before you know it, all of upstate NY will be nothing but casinos, getting a tad out of hand IMO.
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                    • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                      I'm from Oklahoma, you want to talk about out of hand? Try driving there more than 15 min. without running across a casino.

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                      • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                        Originally posted by UCfan30 View Post
                        Heartbreaker for sure, heck of a season though. They have a ton to be proud of this year and I'm already looking forward to next year. This team is pretty solid, Virtanen is for sure the real deal. Kid impressed a lot of people this year, myself included, especially with 40 saves on Saturday. Future is looking good for him and the rest of the team. We only lose 4 guys to graduation, and I'm assuming that due to his injury a few years ago, Bushinski has 1 year left of eligibility, he would've been a senior this year. Have to wait and see about any more recruits and whatnot over the off-season, but only a few things to tweak IMO for next year.
                        I can confirm Mik has played his last game at Utica. Would have came back... then he applied to grad school and got back outstanding offers he couldn't pass on. I won't say where, but you'll learn soon enough.
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                        • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                          Originally posted by Big Trev View Post
                          It's tough when Mark Taylor is one of the best coaches in D3... He runs the Hobart program much like a D1 program. I wonder if Heenan needs to adjust things going forward. He's a good coach too. Total goaltender duel today- Virtanen and Oplinger were both lights out
                          Mark gets great transfer help and is an ace at working that market.... it's pretty much a given that Hobart will always come back stronger than anyone thinks they will when they lose a lot of talent because he's so good at that, and is a superb tactician... He was great on that front on Saturday. That backcheck was stifling.

                          Utica may also have sang a different tune, and of course it's all what-if at this point because Hobart played a simply superb road game..... (Shot blocking, good percentage puck possession game, net presence, and willingness to shoot the puck). if Virtanen had gotten a good feel for the puck before that early one. It's tough to have that pad rebound happen on the first shot, get burned on it, and recover, and I give Pat all the credit in the world for how he battled back in that spot, but I think he doesn't give that one up on the fourth or fifth shot. Oplinger had the game he needed to have for 'Bart, and that was more than enough. All-in-all, goaltending for the majority was pretty solid, and maybe the best i've seen in this matchup since Therrien and Broadwater duked it out on SB Sunday 2013. Neal, Shaw, and Belizario were their typical selves, just complete warhorses one-on-one, and I really like Borsoi to explode for a huge point total next season at the rate he's progressing for Utica.

                          Hobart's going to have one hell of a run this postseason, I do forsee they'll be in Utica....

                          Next year, and for the next few years, this matchup's course will be defined by depth on the blue line. Hobart's old back there now and will lose a lot... Utica desperately needs to shore up their depth and have six healthy guys... You have....

                          Bors-Stefan
                          Carter-Szajner

                          That's a group of four i'm comfortable with. The kid they just committed from the OJ is a brick house. Huge kid. Forward and goaltending they're going to be fine, Ammirato's back, they need to find someone fast enough to play the wing with him opposite Justin, but that should be easy enough. There's enough back on the roster to ensure a progression.... but they need two-three more legitimate D. You can play Schultz or Grose, or Bart as a spare.... but none of those three are what i'd call "every day guys". The OJ kid should help there, he'll kind of be replacement Kirisits I suppose.

                          I think they go as far as their D Zone depth takes them next year. For now, it's the Hobart show again.
                          Last edited by vcxc3200; 03-08-2017, 02:56 PM.
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                          • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                            Originally posted by vcxc3200 View Post
                            Next year, and for the next few years, this matchup's course will be defined by depth on the blue line.
                            Agreed, IF they continue to schedule each other.

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                            • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                              Originally posted by vcxc3200 View Post
                              Mark gets great transfer help and is an ace at working that market.... it's pretty much a given that Hobart will always come back stronger than anyone thinks they will when they lose a lot of talent because he's so good at that, and is a superb tactician... He was great on that front on Saturday. That backcheck was stifling.

                              Utica may also have sang a different tune, and of course it's all what-if at this point because Hobart played a simply superb road game..... (Shot blocking, good percentage puck possession game, net presence, and willingness to shoot the puck). if Virtanen had gotten a good feel for the puck before that early one. It's tough to have that pad rebound happen on the first shot, get burned on it, and recover, and I give Pat all the credit in the world for how he battled back in that spot, but I think he doesn't give that one up on the fourth or fifth shot. Oplinger had the game he needed to have for 'Bart, and that was more than enough. All-in-all, goaltending for the majority was pretty solid, and maybe the best i've seen in this matchup since Therrien and Broadwater duked it out on SB Sunday 2013. Neal, Shaw, and Belizario were their typical selves, just complete warhorses one-on-one, and I really like Borsoi to explode for a huge point total next season at the rate he's progressing for Utica.

                              Hobart's going to have one hell of a run this postseason, I do forsee they'll be in Utica....

                              Next year, and for the next few years, this matchup's course will be defined by depth on the blue line. Hobart's old back there now and will lose a lot... Utica desperately needs to shore up their depth and have six healthy guys... You have....

                              Bors-Stefan
                              Carter-Szajner

                              That's a group of four i'm comfortable with. The kid they just committed from the OJ is a brick house. Huge kid. Forward and goaltending they're going to be fine, Ammirato's back, they need to find someone fast enough to play the wing with him opposite Justin, but that should be easy enough. There's enough back on the roster to ensure a progression.... but they need two-three more legitimate D. You can play Schultz or Grose, or Bart as a spare.... but none of those three are what i'd call "every day guys". The OJ kid should help there, he'll kind of be replacement Kirisits I suppose.

                              I think they go as far as their D Zone depth takes them next year. For now, it's the Hobart show again.
                              Nice wrap-up.

                              Sure, Taylor always out-recruits and out-coaches Heenan. Can you imagine what he'd have accomplished if he'd had the resources Heenan has had for the past 16 years?

                              Going forward, UC returns 6 of its top scorers, and an exceptional 'tender. Bushinski and Boby are going to be missed, but not too badly. As you say, shoring-up the D needs to be the only real priority. If possible, I'd like to see Carter moved to center; he's been a consistent liability on D.

                              Still a bit sad about this past weekend. Watched two OT heartbreakers, either of which -had one or the other gone Utica's way- would have likely resulted in a berth. Having said that, it was the mid-season slump that set the table; Heenan trying to fix what wasn't broken, as per usual. Given that typical occurrence, I wouldn't have predicted UC winning their way into the FF, anyway.

                              I didn't scurry down to The Aud on Monday for tickets, but I'll walk up if Hobart and/or Hamilton makes the FF. I hope that tickets sell briskly; it's a great fit to have Utica hosting, at least for the Eastern teams.

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                              • Re: Utica College 2016/2017

                                Originally posted by jcase View Post
                                Agreed, IF they continue to schedule each other.
                                Heenan is on-record saying that there's no plan to do so...

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