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  • #601
    Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

    Mookie's top 27 list took care of these arguments long long ago
    a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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    • #602
      Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

      Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
      Congo is still one in the Top 10 of Great Bad Movies.
      Road House and Rock Of Ages are up there.
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      • #603
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        Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
        My favorite movie of all time that no one else seems to have seen is Murder in the First. Of those known to everyone probably Godfather or Shawshank. Most laugh inducing might be Caddyshack although Fletch has an even longer list of catch phrases and Airplane deserves considerable mention.
        I saw Murder in the First in the theaters. Kevin Bacon is great in it.
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        • #604
          Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

          ...this man was arrested for being in too many bad moods
          a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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          • #605
            Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
            field of dreams?

            have the book but not read it yet.
            Enjoyed the book a lot. Read it before the movie was out though. Movie was excellent

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            • #606
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              Originally posted by burd View Post
              Enjoyed the book a lot. Read it before the movie was out though. Movie was excellent
              Iowa Baseball Confederacy is even better. Kinsella was a first rate second rate writer. A good read.
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              • #607
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                Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                Sorry, I don't see what there is to "get".

                1. Government removes child prodigy from home at young age
                2. Government brainwashes child prodigy by claiming an opposing race of sentient beings is planning another genocidal war effort
                3. Government uses child prodigy to kill off opposing race of sentient beings that was actually just trying to live in peace
                4. Child prodigy finds out the truth, and vows to resurrect the race of sentient beings that he killed off

                He could have ended the story there, and it's perfectly cromulent, but instead...

                5. Proceed to write a bunch more increasingly uninspiring books about child prodigy growing into an adult
                6. ...
                7. Profit
                That's all plot. The plot doesn't matter at all. The book is about Ender's mind and the philosophy of the misfit. And for that it's never been topped, particularly in SF which tends to have 2-dimensional wish fulfillment characters.

                It was an incredible downer to discover Card is a jerk. I still don't know how a jerk could write that sensitive and nuanced a psychology of a character.
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                • #608
                  Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                  Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                  Movie > Book
                  All the Bond movies, even if they only used the title.

                  I've heard the book Gone with the Wind is dreadful.

                  I tried reading Colossus once and it's crap.
                  Last edited by Kepler; 02-06-2017, 10:03 AM.
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                  • #609
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                    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                    I've heard many say the same about Dr. Strangelove, Fight Club and Die Hard but I have not read them.
                    I didn't even know Strangelove and Die Hard came from books.

                    Whoever says that about Fight Club is an idiot. The book is superior to the movie and I LOVE the movie.
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                    • #610
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                      Originally posted by SonofSouthie View Post
                      The Last of the Mohicans
                      Mark Twain says hi. Or was it Mencken? Anyway, it's hilarious.

                      Edit: it was Twain.
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                      • #611
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                        American Psycho. I didn't read the book but had a buddy who did. He said it was painful to read. Apparently the book does stuff like take 8 pages to describe the outfit Patrick Bateman is wearing, etc. You can only imagine the graphic scenes.

                        The movie rules, however.
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                        • #612
                          Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                          American Psycho. I didn't read the book but had a buddy who did. He said it was painful to read. Apparently the book does stuff like take 8 pages to describe the outfit Patrick Bateman is wearing, etc. You can only imagine the graphic scenes.

                          The movie rules, however.
                          I actually thought the book was better than the movie, although admittedly I didn't really like the movie.
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                          • #613
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                            Also: 2001. The book is OK, the movie is a masterpiece.

                            For 99.99% of the audience, The Name of the Rose. The book is spectacular but you have to really want it, and I don't blame readers who don't want an 800-page erudite discourse on Medieval Catholic fringe movements and heresies. (Though if you do, my God the book is pure erotic delight.) For normal people, the movie is fun and picturesque, and in all honesty Connery is a perfect embodiment of what Eco was looking for in his William of Baskerville.
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                            • #614
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                              Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                              I actually thought the book was better than the movie, although admittedly I didn't really like the movie.
                              Gonna have to see it again. I remember seeing it with a Richter 7.5 headache and, surprise, not enjoying the experience. Is Woody in that? I may be confused but my memory is it was the first time I saw Woody after "Cheers" and I thought, "whoa -- that dimwitted farmboy can act!"

                              Speaking of Woody: A Scanner Darkly. Book is very good but very, very Dick and impenetrable unless you've read a lot of him ("taken a lot of Dick"?) . Movie was 50x more fun and somehow just as weird.

                              Speaking of Dick: Bladerunner. 1000x better than the book which is the only Dick book I've ever put down unfinished. It's just not very good. In fact I think this is the archetype for movie better than the book.

                              Wizard of Oz kinda sucks as a book, too. (I know, heresy.)
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                              • #615
                                Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                Also: 2001. The book is OK, the movie is a masterpiece.

                                For 99.99% of the audience, The Name of the Rose. The book is spectacular but you have to really want it, and I don't blame readers who don't want an 800-page erudite discourse on Medieval Catholic fringe movements and heresies. (Though if you do, my God the book is pure erotic delight.) For normal people, the movie is fun and picturesque, and in all honesty Connery is a perfect embodiment of what Eco was looking for in his William of Baskerville.
                                2001 (movie) was awful. Only surpassed by Clockwork Orange. Which was absolute garbage.

                                Last time I made this point, I received this rep:
                                I have yet to stay awake during 2001. Sleepiest movie ever made.
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