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  • #556
    Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

    Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
    Maybe better as a short TV mini-series a la The Night Manager, IT...
    That would be the way to do it, yes. Look at how well Westworld delivered.

    I have long thought that style is the only way to make Foundation work. I don't care about Dune, but if they lobotomize Foundation I will burn Hollywood to the ground. It's too good for them.

    (I'd once have said the same thing about Ender's Game but with Card being such a jackas-s fair f-cks to them.)
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    • #557
      Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

      I despised - maybe too strong of a word, maybe not - Ender's Game.

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      • #558
        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        You should. It's excellent.

        But do not read the sequels. They... aren't.
        Messiah was plain awful. Kiddies of Dune was not bad. Dune, however, Kull Wahad!

        God Emperor was take it or leave it.
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        • #559
          Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

          Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
          Maybe better as a short TV mini-series a la The Night Manager, IT...
          Dune would make a great 10 part series on HBO or Starz or something. Cannot be done as a 2 hour movie. There's just too much subtle stuff going on, stuff that you can't cut out without leaving you just the barest skeleton of a story. Like the first Dune movie.

          I think I started watching the Syfy adaptation, but don't think I ever saw tghe entire thing. Some say it's better than the movie, and others say it's even worse.
          Last edited by rufus; 02-01-2017, 06:10 PM.
          What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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          • #560
            Originally posted by rufus View Post
            Dune would make a great 10 part series on HBO or Starz or something. Cannot be done as a 2 hour movie. There's just too much subtle stuff going on, stuff that you can't cut out without leaving you just the barest skeleton of a story. Like the first Dune movie.

            I think I started watching the Syfy adaptation, but don't think I ever saw tghe entire thing. Some say it's better than the movie, and others say it's even worse.
            Any DeLorentis movie will be a disaster of Irwin Allen proportions. The SyFy adaptation was not bad.
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            • #561
              Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

              Originally posted by rufus View Post
              Dune would make a great 10 part series on HBO or Starz or something. Cannot be done as a 2 hour movie. There's just too much subtle stuff going on, stuff that you can't cut out without leaving you just the barest skeleton of a story. Like the first Dune movie.

              I think I started watching the Syfy adaptation, but don't think I ever saw tghe entire thing. Some say it's better than the movie, and others say it's even worse.
              IMO the Syfy series didn't suck but the movie sure did.
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              • #562
                Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                LOL. I'm totally confused.
                Well see Scooby there are really beautiful women out there...and many of them dont give a crap about the book Dune. To be seen reading that book would have made sure said beautiful woman would never talk to me, so I didnt read it

                and now I am probably being shamed on twitter cause I said "beautiful" and "lady" and implied that women are misogynistic or something
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                • #563
                  Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                  Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                  I despised - maybe too strong of a word, maybe not - Ender's Game.
                  The movie or the book?

                  The movie is the brain dead version. It's very pretty and it gave the tweens a storyline even they could understand.

                  The book is a completely different creature. It's a genuinely original and interesting idea. Speaker for the Dead, the sequel, is not as brilliant but if anything the ideas are deeper.
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                  • #564
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                    The book was a cromulent, B-list, sci-fi thriller.

                    The sequels are a snoozefest - I lost interest in the series early on in #3, Xenophobia. Card would've been better off telling other stories within that universe, and then bringing some of them back for the conclusion (like C.S. Lewis did with The Chronicles of Narnia), instead of trying to work Ender Wiggins into every novel. The character is just not that interesting. We get it - he hates himself for destroying an entire race of living beings, and spends the rest of his life trying to atone for it. *yawn*
                    Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 02-01-2017, 09:40 PM.

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                    • #565
                      Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                      Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                      The book was a cromulent, B-list, sci-fi thriller.
                      Wrong. Read it again. Repeat until you get it.
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                      • #566
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                        Sorry, I don't see what there is to "get".

                        1. Government removes child prodigy from home at young age
                        2. Government brainwashes child prodigy by claiming an opposing race of sentient beings is planning another genocidal war effort
                        3. Government uses child prodigy to kill off opposing race of sentient beings that was actually just trying to live in peace
                        4. Child prodigy finds out the truth, and vows to resurrect the race of sentient beings that he killed off

                        He could have ended the story there, and it's perfectly cromulent, but instead...

                        5. Proceed to write a bunch more increasingly uninspiring books about child prodigy growing into an adult
                        6. ...
                        7. Profit

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                        • #567
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                          A+ for the use of cromulent.
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                          • #568
                            Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                            I recall Kepler using it to describe how he came to terms with The Dark Knight, so I just learned it from the best snob.

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                            • #569
                              Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                              Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                              I recall Kepler using it to describe how he came to terms with The Dark Knight, so I just learned it from the best snob.
                              Besides Kepler, the only people I know who like Ender's Game are 7th graders. To be fair they probably also like The Bachelor
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                              • #570
                                Re: MOVIES: New Ideas Welcome!

                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                The movie or the book?
                                The movie.

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