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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaBadger1995 View Post
    Gildon decommits because he liked the former staff, committed to them, and the current staff isn't/wasn't as high on him. Paraphrasing Todd Milewski's tweet
    With the Gildon and Nyberg issues, it kinda deepens the concern about the talent level improving @ D, at least for next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    With the Gildon and Nyberg issues, it kinda deepens the concern about the talent level improving @ D, at least for next season.
    Agree it is very concerning. Is there anyone that we can turn, knowing that they can come in and contribute right away? Or they get pushed off another year by one of the top schools?

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaBadger1995 View Post
    Gildon decommits because he liked the former staff, committed to them, and the current staff isn't/wasn't as high on him. Paraphrasing Todd Milewski's tweet

    ***? Liked the former staff over G2O? Ice up, son...ice up.
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    Yeah something about that doesn't pass the smell test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCityRich View Post
    ***? Liked the former staff over G2O? Ice up, son...ice up.
    The new staff passed on having him sign during the early period for a reason I believe. They must not have been as high on him as the old staff. Seems like Gildon is having a mediocre 2nd year at NTDP,. It's hard the believe the staff isn't currently recruiting a kid that they plan on bringing in next year. My guess is an older USHL player that is currently committed to another school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiscTJK View Post
    Agree it is very concerning. Is there anyone that we can turn, knowing that they can come in and contribute right away? Or they get pushed off another year by one of the top schools?
    Inamoto is going to be very good IMO. Of course, for my glass half empty friends, his rights are owned by Kitchener up North.

    If we want to just pull names out of a hat, Josh Maniscalco off the NTDP U-18 decommitted from MN this last year and is a stud. And hey, suddenly Carson Vance is tied for 3rd in USHL D pts with 13 in 20... Or uncommitted 19 year old Finn, Veli-Matti Tiuraniemi is off to a good start with Dubuque.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Inamoto is going to be very good IMO. Of course, for my glass half empty friends, his rights are owned by Kitchener up North.

    If we want to just pull names out of a hat, Josh Maniscalco off the NTDP U-18 decommitted from MN this last year and is a stud. And hey, suddenly Carson Vance is tied for 3rd in USHL D pts with 13 in 20... Or uncommitted 19 year old Finn, Veli-Matti Tiuraniemi is off to a good start with Dubuque.
    I wouldn't worry about Kitchener too much for him. Our goalie who bolted there had a personal connection to Kitchener through the MacInnis family.

    I guess the theory that Gildon knew of the coaching change coming before he committed was completely false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    Inamoto is going to be very good IMO. Of course, for my glass half empty friends, his rights are owned by Kitchener up North.

    If we want to just pull names out of a hat, Josh Maniscalco off the NTDP U-18 decommitted from MN this last year and is a stud. And hey, suddenly Carson Vance is tied for 3rd in USHL D pts with 13 in 20... Or uncommitted 19 year old Finn, Veli-Matti Tiuraniemi is off to a good start with Dubuque.
    flip Cole Hults? Plays for Capitals, Stoughton native, but brother at Lake Superior.

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    flip Cole Hults? Plays for Capitals, Stoughton native, but brother at Lake Superior.
    Mitch backed out of his MN commit to go to Lake State with Cole so that seems pretty strong, but anything's possible.

    I think G20's reach is pretty unlimited yet and ideally you'd like a top puck mover... but I guess the staff could also choose not to add with 4 D committed for the next year and still be ok. Maybe they'll just swing for the fences knowing they can strike out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    If we want to just pull names out of a hat, Josh Maniscalco off the NTDP U-18 decommitted from MN this last year and is a stud.
    He has totally fallen off. He got demoted to play U17 earlier this year if I remember...

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    He has totally fallen off. He got demoted to play U17 earlier this year if I remember...
    He stayed and played two games vs. MN elite after the U18 played the goofs. Do you know it was a demotion or are you just assuming that?

    He has played all 27 U-18 games to date. I know he played in the CCM All American Prospects game at the end of September and I saw him against Wisconsin.
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    Two write-ups from SBN in October. I don't think the U was too bummed to let him go.

    "Josh Maniscalco-Maniscalco hasnít been seeing much ice with the U18s so far this year, so he got some time down with the U17s who were short on D this weekend. Maniscalco really seems to have hit a plateau in his development. Heís pretty much the same player he was last year, which was pretty much the same player he was the year prior. Heís not terrible, and he should still be a nice college player for somebody down the road, but heís not looking like a top prospect any more."

    "Josh Maniscalco- Maniscalco doesnít play as much as the other defenseman 5-on-5, though they use him quite a bit in penalty kill situations. It speaks to his defensive abilities, where heís a strong, physical presence, but he doesnít play an overly dynamic game."

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    And a note on Gildon, who seems to be trending back upwards.
    "Max Gildon(Wisconsin)- A player with Gildonís raw physical tools should be a slam-dunk for the first round of the draft. But Iím not sure that he has the hockey sense to match it. His huge shot from the point is a big asset that Iíd like to see used more often. Heíll probably somewhere in the second round of the draft."

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    A lot of interesting recruiting information on tonight's Wisconsin Hockey Hour. Tony Granato was out on the road recruiting so Don Granato was on with Brian Posick. He explained how recruiting works and why so many younger kids are being "recruited" and committing at a young age. It sounded like these top recruits are visiting a couple schools they're interested in and meeting the coaches on campus and saying they're ready to commit. Don also stated that they have to start "recruiting and evaluating" kids at 12-13 years old. They find these top 10 kids at each age group by knowing their family advisors. Very interesting information about overall recuiting tonight...check it out on badgersportsnetwork.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonin21 View Post
    Two write-ups from SBN in October. I don't think the U was too bummed to let him go.
    That's fine, I just take some exception to the "totally fallen off" and "demoted" comments as it leaves the impression he sucks. Which he doesn't. (and it seems the 17's only had maybe 4 D available for those two games and needed some bodies) Dilks is writing from the standpoint of top NHL prospects and is pretty critical of those he doesn't see as top round picks in those articles. But to be fair, he had also just watched the 18's get blown out 9-0.

    I'd agree with this part:

    "heís a strong, physical presence, but he doesnít play an overly dynamic game."

    For next year the Badger's could probably use another puck mover, but the following year they have much more dynamic D coming in that they'd perhaps like to pair with a more defensive D. (Or maybe not, as Tony may want to just try to outscore everyone with all offensive type players, I don't know.)
    I've seen this kid play a few times and my take is what he does, he does well. Keeps it simple, get it back, get it out, very tough in front of the net. Sort of like Tischke is playing the last few games, but doesn't have Tischke's explosive skates or top gear. (few guys do) But strong on his skates and a decent skater. He had no problem staying with a top skater like Hughes through the slot and muscling up on guys to deny the puck or get it back. Physical, good positioning, good instincts, calm, good awareness, finds the open guy and bodies up on him, makes the simple play and doesn't turn it over. Will be a good NCAA player.

    Now having said that, he's still just a name I picked out of the air. Obviously G2O knows a lot about him and there's a lot of guys they could go after. There's also often more decommits and more guys who blossom as the year wears on.
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    Next Recruiting Grounds is up, covering the World Junior A Challenge which is coming up this Sunday. It's been a good tournament to recruit from and see what your already committed recruits have against good competition. Brendan Smith and Kyle Turris are just a couple Badgers that have participated...
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    @JeffCoxSports: Buffalo Sabres draft pick Philip Nyberg flipped commitment from Wisconsin to UConn. 6'4" '97 RD from Sweden w/ Madison Caps (USHL) this year

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    I have removed Nyberg from the recruiting sheet and then added Cullen Hurley to the defensive depth chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBBadger14 View Post
    Continued admissions issue...
    Not to stir the pot, but can anyone cite any other recent examples of recruits who were sent away because of admission issues? Specific examples similar to this would be great; a student who has committed (and even signed the LOI) only to be turned away because of admission issues as compared to a "oh, I heard he would have come here if he could have gotten through admission but he knew he couldn't so he went somewhere else".

    I know that we hear it a lot, a certain former football coach made his opinions well known, but is it actually an issue beyond 1-2 out of 100 potential student-athletes per sport?

    Again, I'm not just being contradictory, I don't know what the statistics or history on this matter are. If anyone has more information I would be glad to hear it.

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