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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by GBBadger14 View Post
    Can they do that? I just assumed signing an NLI meant he'd be here next season. Milewski also mentioned the possibility of him coming in next year in an article in February.
    Its supposed to mean next season - The NLI has a provision that was designed to prevent players from signing NLI's, then reneging on the agreement, and heading to another school after waiting out the one-year NLI agreement. As a result, the NLI agreement was ruled to remain binding if the school was still interested in offering the agreed upon terms the following school year.

    College hockey coaches and compliance offices have begun exploiting this rule, under the pretense that "if a student-athlete decides of his own volition" to defer a year they can do so and the NLI agreement holds the following season. The reality of the situation is they just want to exert their power over a verbal commitment and eliminate any potential change of heart. The school signs the player, tells them they will be deferring and then the student-athlete decides of his "own volition" to defer...

    It is situations like UNH's deferral of Mike Vecchione that led to this manipulation of long-standing rules. Vecchione was unhappy that UNH changed their plans for him and booked to Union. If he had signed an NLI at the earliest possibility, instead of waiting until his arrival year, he would have been stuck. Its a power move by coaching staffs and athletic departments. In many cases, it may be initially agreed upon - such as this one for UW (no harm, no foul) - but it was born out of (and is often used for) selfish intentions by the schools...

    This is why it bothers me when people aimlessly attack the NCAA for their treatment of student-athletes. What they do not realize, is the poor treatment often comes from Universities exploiting loop-holes in rules that have long served the student-athlete. Additionally, it is the coaches, athletic departments and conferences that make (and have the power to change) these rules. They don't, because they'd rather exploit them. The NCAA enforces, gets the blame and the others skate free...

    If you haven't yet, you really should try to make it to an NCAA coaches convention (in any sport) to listen to the GROWN UPS who trash student-athletes and young adults character, behavior and attitudes in an attempt to rationalize their self-serving rulings. It is a scene man...
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    @MikeMcMahonCHN: The team with the most commits on their list currently is Wisconsin, who has 34 listed. Most (27) are projected between 2018-2021 arrivals.

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    You only have 18 scholarships to give. A few kids' dreams are going to run into the harsh realities.
    One would assume some of Eaves' recruits may not come in. Also, we don't know who has been promised what in terms of partial or full scholarships. Add that to early departures and UW is fine. This is exactly how OZ recruited in his first tenure and it seemed to work very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    @MikeMcMahonCHN: The team with the most commits on their list currently is Wisconsin, who has 34 listed. Most (27) are projected between 2018-2021 arrivals.

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    You only have 18 scholarships to give. A few kids' dreams are going to run into the harsh realities.
    G2O are planning on a lot of early departures. Their strategy is to get the best, and when they leave just re-load and not lament. Plus 5 Fr F for 18-19 are Eaves recruits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    @MikeMcMahonCHN: The team with the most commits on their list currently is Wisconsin, who has 34 listed. Most (27) are projected between 2018-2021 arrivals.

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    You only have 18 scholarships to give. A few kids' dreams are going to run into the harsh realities.
    Meh, in an ideal world a team would turn over 7 players a year: 4 F, 2 D and 1G. Thus, over the 2018-21 (4 seasons) a school would need to replace ~28 players almost exactly what UW has committed and that is before accounting for any early departures (which you can fill with a late bloomer).

    UW has not at this point over-recruited, but they have recruited early which may only may not work out in the end. UW is already recruiting to fill there 2022 and 2023 classes while other schools are still working on their 2019 and 2020 classes. If you identify the he right players it can pay off handsomely in the end, if you have to many whiffs you can struggle mightily.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Posick said Ess is coming next year. I sure hoping bringing Zimmer and Ess in early isn't going to screw them up.
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    Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    Posick said Ess is coming next year. I sure hoping bringing Zimmer and Ess in early isn't going to screw them up.
    I believe this staff would bring in a player earlier than anticipated if they expected him to contribute right away.

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    Ess, Kalynuk, and Weissbach have all signed and will play next season with UW. The spreadsheet can be updated accordingly. G2O must be really impressed with Ess to being him in this early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almington View Post
    I believe this staff would bring in a player earlier than anticipated if they expected him to contribute right away.
    Didn't necessarily pan out for Zimmer last year, but hopefully he was a strong So. season.
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    Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
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    Quote Originally Posted by UWisco View Post
    Ess, Kalynuk, and Weissbach have all signed and will play next season with UW. The spreadsheet can be updated accordingly. G2O must be really impressed with Ess to being him in this early.
    I have made the adjustments on the spreadsheet. Excited to see what these kids will be able to do for the defensive corps this season.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Oz is in Kelowna BC eating fish and ships per his Tweeter. Maybe he'll look at a few players too.
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    Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    Oz is in Kelowna BC eating fish and ships per his Tweeter. Maybe he'll look at a few players too.
    I'm guessing he's up there watching Massimo Rizzo. He's playing for Penticton during their playoff run.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by GBBadger14 View Post
    I'm guessing he's up there watching Massimo Rizzo. He's playing for Penticton during their playoff run.
    Badger forward commit Grant Cruikshank also plays for Penticton.

    Of note playing for Chilliwack is former forward commit Kohen Olischefski (now Denver commit) and defenseman Carver Watson from Appleton who is committed to Michigan Tech.
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Always a sad day, but I have flipped the rosters on the recruiting sheet to show '17-'18 as the current year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhinwi View Post
    Always a sad day, but I have flipped the rosters on the recruiting sheet to show '17-'18 as the current year.
    I'm looking forward to a few years from now when you can get rid of all of the ! and * marks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhinwi View Post
    Always a sad day, but I have flipped the rosters on the recruiting sheet to show '17-'18 as the current year.
    Latsch, Holloway, and Novak can probably be moved to freshmen in 2021-22.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by UWisco View Post
    Ess, Kalynuk, and Weissbach have all signed and will play next season with UW. The spreadsheet can be updated accordingly. G2O must be really impressed with Ess to being him in this early.
    Coach Granato, "They are all elite. We are looking to upgrade our skill. I think the one thing the group has, in general, is that they are competitors and character guys. They are all good leaders. We are looking for them to be impact players right away."

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by UWisco View Post
    Latsch, Holloway, and Novak can probably be moved to freshmen in 2021-22.
    Done!

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by MadCityRich View Post
    Coach Granato, "They are all elite. We are looking to upgrade our skill. I think the one thing the group has, in general, is that they are competitors and character guys. They are all good leaders. We are looking for them to be impact players right away."

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    I haven't even wet a musky lure yet and your wanna fast forward to October! Patience young man, patience.

    I am worried Ess is coming in too soon, but we shall see.
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    I haven't even wet a musky lure yet and your wanna fast forward to October! Patience young man, patience.

    I am worried Ess is coming in too soon, but we shall see.
    This might point more to the deficiencies of the defensive corps, but I hope he can contribute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhinwi View Post
    This might point more to the deficiencies of the defensive corps, but I hope he can contribute.
    I think with Ess coming in early , may mean Patty Sexton is on his way out.

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