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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    I'm all for more Canooks on the roster, especially in goal. Canadians are mostly going to come from Canadian Junior A teams like Penticton. Before we run down the NAHL too much, remember that NAHL is a Tier II Junior and on the same level as Canadian Junior A. In fact, 3 of the top 5, and 5 of the top 10 teams in the North American Tier 2 Junior rankings are in the NAHL. Here's a LINK. Janesville is #8, btw.

    Certainly overall, USHL and MJ players are better, but there are still plenty of good players coming out of Tier II and as a league, the NAHL doesn't have to take a backseat to the OJHL, AJHL, BCHL, etc.
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
    I'm all for more Canooks on the roster, especially in goal. Canadians are mostly going to come from Canadian Junior A teams like Penticton. Before we run down the NAHL too much, remember that NAHL is a Tier II Junior and on the same level as Canadian Junior A. In fact, 3 of the top 5, and 5 of the top 10 teams in the North American Tier 2 Junior rankings are in the NAHL. Here's a LINK. Janesville is #8, btw.

    Certainly overall, USHL and MJ players are better, but there are still plenty of good players coming out of Tier II and as a league, the NAHL doesn't have to take a backseat to the OJHL, AJHL, BCHL, etc.
    I agree with your post 100%, but it doesn't mean WE should "settle" for any of them. UW is a top ten college hockey program ("back in the day" I'd say top 5) and without question should be landing many more top, elite players (goalies) especially from North America. I've posted before, "...no disrespect to Tier II or Junior A players, but they aren't in the USHL, NCAA, or CHL for a reason." There are always some exceptions.

    Taking a very quick look at rosters in the B1G, 1-Notre Dame, 2-Ohio State, 3-Penn State, ALL (9) of their goalies are from the U.S. (I'd like to look at the top ten in the NCAA, but currently cannot). I'm not pumping the USA jersey, but just showing that we're missing out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadCityRich View Post
    ...UW is a top ten college hockey program...
    Out of curiosity, what is your top ten list and where does Wisconsin fit in it?

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    Top ten programs (not teams this year) is an interesting topic. I think no point in actually ranking them since the debate could go on forever, but a list of teams for me would be:

    BC, BU, DU, ND, UM, UMD, UMN, UND, uw (9) and someone from Lowell, Providence, Qpac, or Union with PSU a quickly rising program

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaMiGo View Post
    Out of curiosity, what is your top ten list and where does Wisconsin fit in it?
    I'm talking about history all the way to current. WI, MN, NoDak, BC, BU, DU, for example. I was simply stating UW is a top ten ALL TIME college hockey PROGRAM. No idea if it's even possible to list an order.
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Eight UW recruits were listed on the recent NHL Central Scouting's midterm rankings for the 2018 draft:

    23. RW Sampo Ranta
    31. D K'Andre Miller
    56. LW Jack Gorniak
    57. D Ty Emberson
    148. D Cole Krygier
    159. D Christian Krygier
    167. D Mike Vorlicky
    195. C Ben Helgeson

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    We have talked about Aleksi Peltonen in this thread previously...I noticed he moved from the NAHL to Omaha of the USHL in December. Only one point so far in eight games I believe with Omaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DPlaya View Post
    Eight UW recruits were listed on the recent NHL Central Scouting's midterm rankings for the 2018 draft:

    23. RW Sampo Ranta
    31. D K'Andre Miller
    56. LW Jack Gorniak
    57. D Ty Emberson
    148. D Cole Krygier
    159. D Christian Krygier
    167. D Mike Vorlicky
    195. C Ben Helgeson
    It's crazy with all the D on the list.
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    It's crazy with all the D on the list.
    yep, but still need that highly rated goalie.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    On the bright side, Daniel Lebedeff has posted a .955 sv% and 1.25 GA over his last 4 starts, moving his sv% on the season up to .918. He has been heading in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wisctjk View Post
    yep, but still need that highly rated goalie.
    bad!
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Apparently they are listening to you and going for a Russian goalie now.

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=326698



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    Жуков played against the Capitols Friday night. He's a big boy.
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by MadCityRich View Post
    Жуков played against the Capitols Friday night. He's a big boy.
    191 cm and 85kg. He seems to be an elite player, I wonder why he hasn't hooked up with anyone yet. Of course if he's channeling his commie roots playing for UW will get him in the right town in the right colors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy A View Post
    191 cm and 85kg. He seems to be an elite player, I wonder why he hasn't hooked up with anyone yet. Of course if he's channeling his commie roots playing for UW will get him in the right town in the right colors.
    That's 6'-3" 190 lbs for those that aren't Canadian and know the metric system!

    His save % is less than Jurusik and he is just under Matt in GAA.

    8 33 Maksim Zhukov GB 30 16 10 1 1 750 67 2.38 0.911 2 1691 2 1 6 3 0.500
    9 35 Cole Weaver DBQ 16 8 7 1 0 363 38 2.42 0.895 1 941 1 1 2 0 1.000
    10 30 Matej Tomek WAT 17 8 6 2 1 451 42 2.47 0.907 1 1022 2 1 11 1 0.909
    11 30 Matt Jurusik SC 29 14 10 3 1 823 69 2.52 0.916 0 1641 6 5 21 2 0.905

    But to be fair, he is A rated in NHL rating service: http://www.ushl.com/view#/player/7097/62/maksim-zhukov
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhinwi View Post
    Apparently they are listening to you and going for a Russian goalie now.

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=326698
    Maybe that's what it'll take for everyone to understand how fun it is to chant ШАЙБУ! ШАЙБУ! ШАЙБУ!

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Yes please on Ruskie goalie taken in the top 100 of the NHL draft. As far as comparisons to the dearly departed Jurusik, I'll take the one putting up similar stats that is 2 years younger and has a pedigree vastly superior...representing his country in international tournaments, playing in the USHL at 17 verses the Janesville Jets, drafted verses not, etc.

    The big question mark going forward is clearly goaltending. While Berry has been better this year then last, he also turns 22 in a couple of weeks and I am guessing we are nearing his ceiling as a player. Big Ruskie has an elite pedigree that gives you a chance at a different level of play in net (or at the very least someone that should push Berry to have to make another incremental improvement going into his junior season).

    Oz has the D grouping next year looking something similar to the grouping that peaked out as the 2010 national runner up that had McDonagh, Smith, Schultz, Goloubef, Gardiner, & Ramage. Our frosh grouping of Weissback, Baker, and Dhooghe are showing promise and we will add Stevens, Ranta, Gorniak, Caufield, Turcotte, and St Phalle among others to them in the next couple of seasons.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Did you guys see Caufield's numbers so far? 40 goals in 34 games with the u17 ntdp. Next closest in goals on the team is 14. Ridiculous.

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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by Innova View Post
    Did you guys see Caufield's numbers so far? 40 goals in 34 games with the u17 ntdp. Next closest in goals on the team is 14. Ridiculous.
    Edit: Stats page was wrong.
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    Re: Wisconsin Recruiting Vol. III - Building a better tomorrow...today!

    Quote Originally Posted by Innova View Post
    Did you guys see Caufield's numbers so far? 40 goals in 34 games with the u17 ntdp. Next closest in goals on the team is 14. Ridiculous.
    One and done, eh? TG has no issues pushing guys out the door if it's better for them.
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