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  • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

    Originally posted by Critical Thinker View Post
    If top forwards are staying away from the WCHA because it's low scoring, then shouldn't it logically follow that the top defensemen and goalies would be committing in droves?
    No because everyone wants to play the best. Defensemen care as much about the 2-way play, getting to be part of the offense as anyone. Although to be fair, the WCHA has always been strong between the pipes, so you could see some truth to that.
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    • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

      Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View Post
      I think the point many of you miss is that a real scout isn't going to be fooled by an inflated stat line. If you have talent and you play in a league that bogs you down, a true talent scout is going to see that player has the skills to play at the same level. By the same token a player to puts up 40 pts in a wide-open league without basic skills isn't going to the next level regardless of what their stats say. That same scout will take one look at their game and notice they are not facing any tough opposition and understand that once the competition gets tough they are not going to be racking up the points any more.

      Hey if a kid just wants to rack up stats, go play D-III or club hockey. They can take even a minimal amount of D-I level skill and be the next Great One. If you really want to get to the next level, things like who coached you, how much you improved year-to-year, and physical skills have way more to do with you getting pro attention than your stat line.

      Only fans are impressed by great stats.

      Ryan J
      Scouts are looking at those who can play a style similar to what they'd be expected to play in the pros. Just like with football, if you play in a system that's dissimilar to the pro game, scouts will shy away from you. If a scout knows one guy can play an uptempo, speed game, because he just saw him do it, that kid moves way ahead of a kid who could maybe play that way, but no one has really seen it for the last 4 years.

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      • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

        Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
        No because everyone wants to play the best. Defensemen care as much about the 2-way play, getting to be part of the offense as anyone. Although to be fair, the WCHA has always been strong between the pipes, so you could see some truth to that.
        Has the WCHA really been good between the pipes in the last couple years, or have we just piled up impressive numbers because no one gets near the net to take a shot? It's not like our goalies have posted a lot of shutouts in non-con games recently. No knock on our goalies - I think most are probably quite good. But I don't know that they're able to really prove that in conference games. Again, if you have a style of play dissimilar to other leagues, both college and pro, it's hard to evaluate the real talent of the players.

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        • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

          I wonder how many have talked to the players, coaches & scouts and asked their perception. Or if they are just making fan assumptions.
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          • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

            Just a guess but could it be opposing league coaches use that argument when recruiting?
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            • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

              Inside the WCHA Episode 2 featuring Tom Serratore:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txZY6wt4bww
              Just to be clear. My disinterest in this team became of the Uni's disinterest. Without the success of the hockey team, the other teams would not be where they are. Way to pay back the hockey team. **** UAA.

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              • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

                I think that a Tech sweep is pretty likely; a Bemidji sweep is about as likely as a split.

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                • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

                  Beavers win 2-0 at NMU. Great start!

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                  • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

                    Ouch.
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                    • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

                      Big win for the Mavs and the league. A sweep would be HUGE.
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                      • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

                        What is wrong with Bowling Green? I'm very surprised by their slow start after being picked to finish 1st in the WCHA.
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                        • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

                          Originally posted by LSSULaker889294 View Post
                          What is wrong with Bowling Green? I'm very surprised by their slow start after being picked to finish 1st in the WCHA.
                          Western is that good...I wish. But hopefully that's partially true. We're in our third weekend of the season and second real weekend. Let's not freak out...unless you are a MSU fan. Then you'll be lucky to win seven games this season.
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                          • Originally posted by Dirty Dream No. 2 View Post
                            Western is that good...I wish. But hopefully that's partially true. We're in our third weekend of the season and second real weekend. Let's not freak out...unless you are a MSU fan. Then you'll be lucky to win seven games this season.
                            Hildebrand covered up a lot of flaws for the Spartans, and even with him, they weren't very good. Without him, this year could be a complete train wreck.

                            And to give credit where credit is due, LSSU seems on the way to being a good team.

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                            • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

                              Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
                              And to give credit where credit is due, LSSU seems on the way to being a good team.
                              Hopefully, I root for all the Michigan teams that aren't in the Big 14.
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                              • Re: 2016-2017 WCHA Season Thread

                                2016-17 WCHA Non-Conference Schedule

                                The WCHA has 69 non-conference games this year, not including the one game between Alaska and Alaska-Anchorage.

                                27 Possible NCHC Games (2-7-1)
                                25 Possible Big10 Games (3-4-0)
                                8 Possible Hockey East Games (0-2-0)
                                8 Possible Atlantic Hockey Games (1-1-0)
                                7 Possible ECAC Games (0-0-0)
                                TOTAL: 6-14-1

                                ALABAMA-HUNTSVILLE (0-2-0)
                                -2 at Connecticut L 6-0, L 4-0
                                -2 at St. Cloud State
                                -vs. Massachusetts (Minneapolis, MN)
                                -vs. Minnesota/Mercyhurst (Minneapolis, MN)

                                ALASKA (1-3-0)
                                -at Alaska-Anchorage W 4-1
                                -vs. Minnesota (Anchorage, AK) L 6-3
                                -Canisius L 2-1 (OT)
                                -Nebraska-Omaha L 4-3 (OT)
                                -2 at Notre Dame

                                ALASKA-ANCHORAGE (1-3-0)
                                -Minnesota L 6-0
                                -Alaska L 4-1
                                -vs. Nebraska-Omaha (Fairbanks, AK) L 3-1
                                -vs. Canisius (Fairbanks, AK) W 1-0
                                -2 at Penn State

                                BEMIDJI STATE (0-0-0)
                                -2 at North Dakota
                                -2 with Princeton
                                -at Minnesota-Duluth
                                -Minnesota Duluth
                                -vs. St. Cloud State (St. Paul, MN)
                                -vs. Minnesota/Minnesota-Duluth (St. Paul, MN)

                                BOWLING GREEN (0-1-1)
                                -Western Michigan T 4-4
                                -at Western Michigan L 8-2
                                -Ohio State
                                -at Ohio State
                                -2 at Miami
                                -vs. RIT (Toledo, OH)
                                -with Mercyhurst

                                FERRIS STATE (0-3-0)
                                -Western Michigan L 5-3
                                -at Western Michigan L 2-1
                                -Michigan L 2-1
                                -at Michigan State
                                -Michigan State
                                -vs. Robert Morris (Pittsburgh, PA)
                                -vs. Boston College/Quinnipiac (Pittsburgh, PA)

                                LAKE SUPERIOR STATE (2-0-0)
                                -2 with Michigan State W 6-1, W 7-3
                                -2 at Michigan
                                -2 at Nebraska-Omaha

                                MICHIGAN TECH (0-2-0)
                                -2 at Minnesota Duluth L 6-0, L 4-3
                                -2 at Michigan
                                -2 at Michigan State
                                -vs. Michigan (Detroit, MI)
                                -vs. Western Michigan/Michigan State (Detroit, MI)
                                -2 at Notre Dame

                                MINNESOTA STATE (2-0-0)
                                -2 with St. Cloud State W 4-1, W 6-4
                                -Minnesota
                                -at Minnesota
                                -2 at Princeton

                                NORTHERN MICHIGAN (0-2-0)
                                -2 vs. Wisconsin (at Green Bay) W 3-2, L 6-5
                                -2 at Wisconsin
                                -2 with Nebraska-Omaha
                                -vs. Colorado College/Cornell/Mercyhurst (Estero, FL)
                                -vs. Colorado College/Cornell/Mercyhurst (Estero, FL)
                                Last edited by beaverhockeyfan; 10-17-2016, 04:25 PM.
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