I'd be a 1st time buyer here and trying to figure out if it's worth it to get a priority point or to be cheap and play the secondary market.
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With that disclaimer out of the way, I've long believed that the demand in the Priority Lottery peaks twice. If you want, call it a bi-modal distribution. The first peak occurs a few levels below the top. The second, a few levels above the bottom. With relatively low sales volume in the middle.
However, that has been called into question by the surge in sales that apparently occurred at Levels 13 & 14. Why the new pattern? Again, it's just educated guesswork, but here are a few of thoughts:
Alternate Theory #1: High priority holders have skipped a few tournaments in recent years. The tournament has gone to Tampa twice in a five year period. For some, that's too far to travel. Then there was the FFFF in Detroit. Obvious issues. Finally, advance sales for Philly were soft. For all those reasons, maybe the first peak has moved down 2-3 Priority Levels. Before we started this lottery, I might have said we'll have a peak around Priority 17. But if this alternate theory is correct, maybe the first peak moved down to Level 14 or so.
The USCHO reports don't really support the alternate theory. But perhaps USCHO Posters are no longer a representative sample of the FF Fan Base as a whole. Or maybe it's even more basic. Perhaps the number of reports we now get is simply too small to give a reliable picture of the larger market.
Alternate Theory #2: We've been at this for 15 years. Priority Levels are based on a 20 year period. Maybe the peaks have simply flattened out as priority holders are spread out over more data points.
Another great question. Several thoughts:I'd be a 1st time buyer here and trying to figure out if it's worth it to get a priority point or to be cheap and play the secondary market.
1. Ticket prices on the secondary market fluctuate with the participating teams. But for most recent tournaments, secondary market tickets have sold for less than face value. That includes some great seats, as satyking says. And BTW, if you go that route, that's not being cheap. You're figuring out how to get good value in the marketplace. Two different things. If fair market value is below face value, getting tickets at fair market value isn't being cheap.
2. For the foreseeable future, the low priority levels will get Upper Bowl seating. Look ahead 10 years. Will Priority 10 (of 30) get you into the Lower Bowl? Maybe. But definitely iffy. And almost certainly not before. Is that attractive enough to draw you into the system? Your call.
3. The 2018 FF is in St. Paul. Based on 2011, having a priority point probably assures you'll get into the building. Hoping to buy from the public allotment with no points at all? A bit of a risk. Yes, there's still the secondary market. But circle back to the first point. If the U of MN qualifies for the 2018 Field, the secondary market suddenly becomes a sellers' market. Same with UND. So having at least one priority point (and making the early purchase) gives you a little bit of protection from being closed out of a tournament where demand spikes.
4. Beyond 2018, will having a priority point or two be a good insurance policy? Well, the NCAA hasn't announced tournament sites beyond 2018. So once again, we're speculating. But the pattern has been that the NCAA is very interested in having the FF in non-traditional cities. Translation? Not much risk of being closed out of those cities. Not much value to the insurance in those years.
Those are the issues as I see it. Polish up that crystal ball and have at it.
In 10 minutes, Priority 11 goes on the clock.
Priority 11, Section 320, Row 3, 4 seats
Being at the priority 4 level, I am still deciding on buying through the NCAA an going secondary market.
Finally caught up on this thread for this year. To confirm, no sets of four at all in the lower or club besides rows 1 and 2?
Just curious how you keep on telling what seats are available, pgb. Is it because you did not buy your full allotment and you still have the option to buy more? If so could one buy in 2 different areas with consecutive purchases? If you bought 4 and the NCAA dropped the limit from 8 to 4 at lower priorities would you then not be able to check in on availability anymore?
Haven't tried it, but I think so. The system is still letting me search in all price categories, not just Club. If it wasn't going to let me purchase, I believe it would block the searches. Recall that it does block the search if it can't give you the requested number of seats in the same row.If so could one buy in 2 different areas with consecutive purchases?
Correct. And that's exactly how it played out last year. Last year I wound up buying 5 of 8, so was able to search for several more rounds before the limit dropped to 4. Then I was shut out of the system. I presume the same thing will happen this year at some point. That said, I'm not aware of any announcement that the limit will be dropping at a specific level. Others have speculated the limit will stay at 8 until the hosts project a sell-out with the lower limit. Meaning, perhaps, that the limit could stay at 8 throughout the Lottery. Can't confirm that at all, but I suppose it could play out that way.If you bought 4 and the NCAA dropped the limit from 8 to 4 at lower priorities would you then not be able to check in on availability anymore?
Thank you. I'll be monitoring and checking in as my date gets closer. Not for a while, unfortunately.
Interesting. Not surprising. True or not, it is basically just the 3 big stakeholders involved as it could be construed as a non-answer as much as an answer.The pricing of the tickets is a collaborative decision between the host, venue and the NCAA based on pricing history and what the market can bear and the location of the tournament.
Also: Most sellers, regardless of the commodity, at least pay lip service to the idea that customer is getting a good value. That sentiment is certainly nowhere to found in the e-mail response. Rather, I'd say it's conspicuous by its absence.
Last edited by pgb-ohio; 10-14-2016 at 06:53 AM.
Well, we're half way through the proceedings. Priority 10 @ 10 Eastern.
I'm already having buyer's remorse. Should've gone cheaper.
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