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    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    Kamal has been on staff. You've never seen him at the Sully carrying around his laptop?
    Yes I've seen him, thought he was just running stats and video for the team.
    “At the end of the day, the Gov Cup is just a trophy,” UAA senior Jordan Kwas said. “I’d rather be in the Final Five every time over winning the Gov Cup.”

    Matt Thomas' Record
    (2013-14) 18-16-4
    (2014-15) 8-22-4
    (2015-16) 11-20-3
    (2016-17) 7-21-6
    (Total) 44-79-17

    2016-17 Word(s) of the Season: Medicore coaching for 24 years due to administration

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    the plan is not an alumni idea...stats/proposed budget was researched and delivered by Coach Thomas and Ciocco. It's not about creating a profit immediately, it's about closing the gap and justifying why they should stick around. Alumni were used to get the word out. They've proposed a 1.4M budget to help close the gap.

    Quote Originally Posted by uaafanblog View Post
    You cannot cover the $1.9M budget with $150 season tickets. Let's say there are currently 1000 season ticket holders and that they paid $400 for their tickets. Then you sell 4000 more season tickets at $150 each. Yes, I know I left about 1000 tickets out of the equation ...

    That's $1M in revenue and I haven't taken any costs from that.

    If you could possibly cover the budget with revenue then maybe you can stick your tongue out at the budget cutters. Filling the joint every night at a discounted rate ain't gonna do anything to impress anyone when it doesn't make it to $1.9M.

    Sorry, I just dont see how this Alumni idea is going to fix anything.

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    There's a reason why the MOA contract is one of the most profitable contracts SMG has in the nation!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post
    Well, I am glad that the muni is helping this situation with only charging 10K a night for the Sully instead of 24K. I wish those with deep pockets (maybe some Alaska NHL players) could get together to help save the programs. Now the AZ State is not joining the NCHC, it would be fun to watch UAA play AZ State on a WCHA playing field (Assuming they join the WCHA).

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeytownak View Post
    They put a decent team on the ice that competes, the fans and revenue will bounce back.
    UAA home attendance:
    12-13 2729 4-25-7, 2-20-6
    13-14 2526 18–16–4, 12–12–4
    14-15 2091 8–22–4, 5–21–2
    15-16 1763 11–20–3, 8–18–2

    One can only help. The numbers from 13-14 to 14-15 are really depressing.
    Last edited by AKSWF; 08-31-2016 at 07:09 PM. Reason: 6
    “At the end of the day, the Gov Cup is just a trophy,” UAA senior Jordan Kwas said. “I’d rather be in the Final Five every time over winning the Gov Cup.”

    Matt Thomas' Record
    (2013-14) 18-16-4
    (2014-15) 8-22-4
    (2015-16) 11-20-3
    (2016-17) 7-21-6
    (Total) 44-79-17

    2016-17 Word(s) of the Season: Medicore coaching for 24 years due to administration

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    My initial understanding was the entire upper level will be general admission....but looking at the seating chart on the website http://www.goseawolves.com/ViewArtic...CLID=204960305 , it appears that the lower section of 212 will be $275/assigned seats.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    I got the numbers on the cost of the Sully from both Hackett and McDiffet. I believe the high cost of hiring people to run the fancy schmancy scoreboard is included in the $24,000.

    What part of the upper bowl are they talking about? We are in the balcony and our tickets are a lot more than 150!

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    At least two of the games will be tape delayed, and yes every single person that doesn't show up will continue to put our team in the hole.

    http://www.goseawolves.com/ViewArtic...B_OEM_ID=13400
    “At the end of the day, the Gov Cup is just a trophy,” UAA senior Jordan Kwas said. “I’d rather be in the Final Five every time over winning the Gov Cup.”

    Matt Thomas' Record
    (2013-14) 18-16-4
    (2014-15) 8-22-4
    (2015-16) 11-20-3
    (2016-17) 7-21-6
    (Total) 44-79-17

    2016-17 Word(s) of the Season: Medicore coaching for 24 years due to administration

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    ...or we can just mope around and watch them turn into a club team. If we don't fight for them, they're gone for sure. It's not a done deal, if we voice our concern. These were three options, not the only options. There are a lot of politics in play here. Let your voice be heard if you feel collegiate hockey/athletics are important to you...3% of the overall budget, is not much. Surely more money could be saved by replacing some of those rural satellite campuses with a good online substitute.


    Quote Originally Posted by AKSWF View Post
    UAA home attendance:
    12-13 2729 4-25-7, 2-20-6
    13-14 2526 18–16–4, 12–12–4
    14-15 2091 8–22–4, 5–21–2
    15-17 1763 11–20–3, 8–18–2

    One can only help. The numbers from 13-14 to 14-15 are really depressing.
    Last edited by hockeytownak; 08-31-2016 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    Yup. The WCHA is killing us.
    Pretty much everyone in the league outside the Tech-Mankato-BG grouping is hurting for money, and if you ask the guys from Ohio, they'll complain about the big travel cost spike from the CCHA days. I know that this makes y'all shake your heads —*I don't know if you even bus to Fairbanks —*but it is a reality whether we like it or not. I ran the travel numbers the other night, and they're no joke. UAA and UAF were generally traveling 32-33k miles a season, and the only teams breaking 20k were UAH and NMU (since we both did the double twice already).

    I hope that the situation can be equitable. Not everyone flies to Huntsville, but plenty of folks do, and traveling here isn't cheap — and we have a subsidy, too, although not as stiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    Pretty much everyone in the league outside the Tech-Mankato-BG grouping is hurting for money, and if you ask the guys from Ohio, they'll complain about the big travel cost spike from the CCHA days. I know that this makes y'all shake your heads —*I don't know if you even bus to Fairbanks —*but it is a reality whether we like it or not. I ran the travel numbers the other night, and they're no joke. UAA and UAF were generally traveling 32-33k miles a season, and the only teams breaking 20k were UAH and NMU (since we both did the double twice already).

    I hope that the situation can be equitable. Not everyone flies to Huntsville, but plenty of folks do, and traveling here isn't cheap — and we have a subsidy, too, although not as stiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeytownak View Post
    ...or we can just mope around and watch them turn into a club team.
    I've brought my friends to games over the years, and let me just say that is no easy feat seeing how nearly everybody knows the hockey teams losses a lot. The only person I've gotten to go more than once was my gf, a dead atmosphere, losing team, the growing amount of ice on the roads during winter, a much older audience are all contributing factors of why us youngins don't have UAA hockey high on the list of things to do Friday/Saturday nights. All that aside, me and my gf still attend most home games.

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeytownak View Post
    If we don't fight for them, they're gone for sure. It's not a done deal, if we voice our concern. These were three options, not the only options.
    I have been voicing my concern, over on twitter to no avail.

    Quote Originally Posted by hockeytownak View Post
    There are a lot of politics in play here. Let your voice be heard if you feel collegiate hockey/athletics are important to you...3% of the overall budget, is not much. Surely more money could be saved by replacing some of those rural satellite campuses with a good online substitute.
    I made a doodle pool seeing the public's interest in donating money to save hockey. I have shared it on here, twitter, the email of UAA hockey fans, ADN, etc.

    8 responses, two of which are from me and gf are well you know. Interestingly enough, Tuttle was the first person to respond. Here's the link: http://doodle.com/poll/9p3udwkszmxf5d89
    “At the end of the day, the Gov Cup is just a trophy,” UAA senior Jordan Kwas said. “I’d rather be in the Final Five every time over winning the Gov Cup.”

    Matt Thomas' Record
    (2013-14) 18-16-4
    (2014-15) 8-22-4
    (2015-16) 11-20-3
    (2016-17) 7-21-6
    (Total) 44-79-17

    2016-17 Word(s) of the Season: Medicore coaching for 24 years due to administration

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKSWF View Post
    8 responses, two of which are from me and gf are well you know. Interestingly enough, Tuttle was the first person to respond. Here's the link: http://doodle.com/poll/9p3udwkszmxf5d89
    When we were in peril, what saved us was our hockey alumni working with our giving alumni to really increase the donations. That's the only thing that saved us —*not the Save UAH Hockey song-and-dance that they had me doing over on the side to drive publicity. I sure hope that the money is there for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    When we were in peril, what saved us was our hockey alumni working with our giving alumni to really increase the donations. That's the only thing that saved us —*not the Save UAH Hockey song-and-dance that they had me doing over on the side to drive publicity. I sure hope that the money is there for you.

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    The measures taken by alumni and supporters for UAH Hockey and UAB football. Those, along with a new hockey friendly President at UAH and a President in the midst of a PR nightmare at UAB. I'm sure fans in Fairbanks and Anchorage are working their legislators and potential donors. Keep your voices heard, loudly & often. Hopefully at least one, if not both, programs can continue and have the resources needed to be successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz View Post
    Tentatively when will the final decision be made and what year will it impact? Will any decision impact next season 2017 / 2018? NCAA schedules may potentially be affected and i would think lead time would be required as it impacts the entire conference in some way. Maybe it will take even longer depending on how everything plays out, but i would suspect 2017 / 2018 would be the earliest with 2018 / 2019 more likely. Thoughts?
    I read that if hockey is eliminated it would take 2 years to implement, but who knows!

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    At least two of the games will be tape delayed, and yes every single person that doesn't show up will continue to put our team in the hole.

    http://www.goseawolves.com/ViewArtic...B_OEM_ID=13400
    That is just a stupid move on the Universities part. Hackett told me they would evaluate the situation after last season if the attendance was negatively affected, and it was. They are hurting so badly to get butts in the seats, but putting it on air LIVE isn't helping one bit. Talk to people like Haider, who has spent his life in radio, and he will tell you this is not a smart move. (Yes, he and I have discussed this quite a bit).
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    If the WCHA changed from clutch and grab to shoot and scoot, perhaps more people would watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    I read that if hockey is eliminated it would take 2 years to implement, but who knows!
    It'll absolutely vary from situation to situation, but when UAH initially dropped the program, cut all the scheduling contracts (and paid the termination fees), and released the players within three weeks' time with an plan to end the program at the end of the newly-started season. The situation was the same or worse for the other programs that have cut hockey over the last few years: Wayne State, Findlay, Iona, and Fairfield. As I remember it, Wayne State knew that they had a season left, Iona and Fairfield announced the cut mid-season, and Findlay axed the program after the season is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    If the WCHA changed from clutch and grab to shoot and scoot, perhaps more people would watch.
    Its already changed to wide open hockey, you missed the memo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    I read that if hockey is eliminated it would take 2 years to implement, but who knows!
    If hockey gets eliminated, it'll be an instant death. No one will want to play for a program that's going nowhere.
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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Didn't see Hackett or any of his minions there last night.
    What a surprise.
    Maybe I didn't look hard enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seawolf Fan View Post
    Didn't see Hackett or any of his minions there last night.
    What a surprise.
    Maybe I didn't look hard enough.
    Was anyone from the University there?
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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