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    Quote Originally Posted by DTuttle View Post
    Don't forget about Hubbs playing for Tulsa. He scored more goals last night than he did during his senior season!
    2 goals in 3 games! Wow. He sure wasn't very effective as a senior for UAA. Or coach doesn't know how to motivate his guys. Or he doesn't know how to get the most out of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    2 goals in 3 games! Wow. He sure wasn't very effective as a senior for UAA. Or coach doesn't know how to motivate his guys. Or he doesn't know how to get the most out of them.
    Or he is playing with better linemates on a better team.

    Plus, he doesn't have to be the senior leader, in stupid penalties taken.

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    I'm really hoping we don't hear that Mantha has signed with a pro team. I heard he was graduating this summer, and I am not sure he will be back. He has been the backbone of this team, I hope we see him next season.
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    And what "resources" are those, resources that UA_ has that UAA does not have? Hackett did a lot to improve the hockey program when he came in. The Farg is remodeled and is a beautiful workout facility for the team. He increased all of the coaches salaries. A big change from the prior AD, when possible, he does not schedule basketball games when there is a hockey game. He has really done a lot for hockey that people will never know about. What more do they need to do? They need to find the RIGHT COACH, and they just have not been able to do that yet. How the heck does FAIRBANKS out recruit us? It has nothing to do with our "resources" vs. their resources. They just have made smarter hiring decisions to their coaching staff. So, what do you suggest?
    You said it, THE RIGHT COACH! Not a good thing missing the playoffs three years in a row and AH finishing ahead of UAA. It is obvious that Matt Baileys leadership must be the reason we went to the WCHA finals four years ago, not the coaching. We only lost three players from that team and then the implosion started. Instead of building off of returning players, the obvious double standards for players and his recruits jammed in everybody's face hurt this team. How has that worked out? The compete level is there as these players have done this from a very young age and it is how they are wired. Add this with a good coach and you have a competitive team. It is evident this coach has bench management issues, cant seem to figure out line combinations, has trouble with situational play and who should be on the ice (just look at the power play) and the obvious double standards for players. Possibly his place should be in the lowly ECHL. Being good on the technical parts does not always make a good Coach/Manager/Teacher and has been proven over and over. This high priced coach is following the same trend as the other coaches UAA has had, and the league has weakened. On a positive note, he gives a good interview. (Concerned fan just wanting to see a competitive team on the ice.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCH1 View Post
    You said it, THE RIGHT COACH! Not a good thing missing the playoffs three years in a row and AH finishing ahead of UAA. It is obvious that Matt Baileys leadership must be the reason we went to the WCHA finals four years ago, not the coaching. We only lost three players from that team and then the implosion started. Instead of building off of returning players, the obvious double standards for players and his recruits jammed in everybody's face hurt this team. How has that worked out? The compete level is there as these players have done this from a very young age and it is how they are wired. Add this with a good coach and you have a competitive team. It is evident this coach has bench management issues, cant seem to figure out line combinations, has trouble with situational play and who should be on the ice (just look at the power play) and the obvious double standards for players. Possibly his place should be in the lowly ECHL. Being good on the technical parts does not always make a good Coach/Manager/Teacher and has been proven over and over. This high priced coach is following the same trend as the other coaches UAA has had, and the league has weakened. On a positive note, he gives a good interview. (Concerned fan just wanting to see a competitive team on the ice.)
    It's not just the coach, if you look at the previous head coaches (even Brush) they all had the same success level in the WCHA. I created a spreadsheet highlighting this, but wanted to add player progression (ie coaches recruits that went to play in the NHL/AHL/ECHL/etc.) so it's not complete. Despite the recent improvements, the hockey team ranks in the bottom half in anything a recruit looks at (except nature). Look at UAA's basketball teams, the volleyball team, they are succeeding and is not completely due to great coaches (Rusty is meh IMHO).
    “At the end of the day, the Gov Cup is just a trophy,” UAA senior Jordan Kwas said. “I’d rather be in the Final Five every time over winning the Gov Cup.”

    Matt Thomas' Record
    (2013-14) 18-16-4
    (2014-15) 8-22-4
    (2015-16) 11-20-3
    (2016-17) 7-21-6
    (Total) 44-79-17

    2016-17 Word(s) of the Season: Medicore coaching for 24 years due to administration

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKSWF View Post
    It's not just the coach, if you look at the previous head coaches (even Brush) they all had the same success level in the WCHA. I created a spreadsheet highlighting this, but wanted to add player progression (ie coaches recruits that went to play in the NHL/AHL/ECHL/etc.) so it's not complete. Despite the recent improvements, the hockey team ranks in the bottom half in anything a recruit looks at (except nature). Look at UAA's basketball teams, the volleyball team, they are succeeding and is not completely due to great coaches (Rusty is meh IMHO).
    ECHL should not even be a factor. Many players that can play there don't want to. Percentage numbers for the AHL are small and chances for the NHL are about 1.5% of all players in the world and figure in the politics. In my opinion, hard to use your progression numbers to make a team competitive. Bemidji 0 draft picks and first in the WCHA, University of Michigan always loaded with draft picks and have struggled to make the playoffs, 2015 Union beats University of Minnesota who is loaded with draft picks.

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by USCH1 View Post
    2015 Union beats University of Minnesota who is loaded with draft picks.
    You will win more drinks with this.

    ^WCHA First Round Playoffs

    03/11/11 .... UAA.......W........4-3^
    03/12/11 .... UAA.......W........2-0^
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    UAF made the kind of hockey history on October 10th 2015 that no team wants to claim – the Nanooks became the first NCAA Division I victim of Arizona State.


    Originally Posted by WeWantMore At least you guys have Packers colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska Hockey View Post
    You will win more drinks with this.

    ^WCHA First Round Playoffs

    03/11/11 .... UAA.......W........4-3^
    03/12/11 .... UAA.......W........2-0^
    Unions was for the NCAA Championship. But I agree, the UAA wins were a great thing.

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    The SOG numbers suck!
    Are those numbers available for the years Thomas has been the coach?
    Has it been a steady decline?
    Without an increase in SOG numbers the team is doomed to the same dismal results as this year.
    Not looking for anyones head but something has to change.

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by fanpain2 View Post
    The SOG numbers suck!
    Are those numbers available for the years Thomas has been the coach?
    Yes they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by fanpain2 View Post
    Has it been a steady decline?
    That would be a good job for an fng,.......... so look it up and report back.

    Quote Originally Posted by fanpain2 View Post
    Without an increase in SOG numbers the team is doomed to the same dismal results as this year.
    Not if you cut down their sog by 1000% you can win, just don’t let them score.

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    Not looking for anyone’s head but something has to change.
    No no not you.
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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by fanpain2 View Post
    The SOG numbers suck!
    Are those numbers available for the years Thomas has been the coach?
    Has it been a steady decline?
    Without an increase in SOG numbers the team is doomed to the same dismal results as this year.
    Not looking for anyones head but something has to change.
    Stats don't look promising, that's for sure. I do agree that SOMETHING has to change, but what? I doubt Thomas would be replaced at this point, but he surely hasn't earned his paycheck.
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squarebanks View Post
    Hearing there's some legislative intent language coming out to have UAA come down to 10 teams.
    Where did you hear this? Nothing in the minutes from the BOR meeting about that.
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    Where did you hear this? Nothing in the minutes from the BOR meeting about that.
    They like other people to do their dirty work so they can say we didn't do it.......... they made us.
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    Originally Posted by WeWantMore At least you guys have Packers colors.

    I Must be Famous ....a School named their program after me

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    Stats don't look promising, that's for sure. I do agree that SOMETHING has to change, but what? I doubt Thomas would be replaced at this point, but he surely hasn't earned his paycheck.
    He has one the hardest sell jobs of any Wcha school if not the hardest sell job in college hockey.

    No campus life to speak of and no help from rural community BoR.

    Dry campus......UAC wet campus with bar sporting high test beer and wine with lowest prices in _airbanks.

    No stipend expenditure to student athletes.

    No student support.

    As everybody but me sez... one of worst arena’s in America.

    Rumors of program being dropped so village can survive.

    With all going for you go. You go sign 2 lines of blue chippers I dare you.
    Alaska Dispatch .... Doyle Woody
    UAF made the kind of hockey history on October 10th 2015 that no team wants to claim – the Nanooks became the first NCAA Division I victim of Arizona State.


    Originally Posted by WeWantMore At least you guys have Packers colors.

    I Must be Famous ....a School named their program after me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska Hockey View Post
    He has one the hardest sell jobs of any Wcha school if not the hardest sell job in college hockey.

    No campus life to speak of and no help from rural community BoR.

    Dry campus......UAC wet campus with bar sporting high test beer and wine with lowest prices in _airbanks.

    No stipend expenditure to student athletes.

    No student support.

    As everybody but me sez... one of worst arena’s in America.

    Rumors of program being dropped so village can survive.

    With all going for you go. You go sign 2 lines of blue chippers I dare you.
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. The players on this years team were solid enough to not end up in last place. That is on the coach. The last I read UA_ didn't offer stipends either. Anyone know which WCHA schools, other than Bowling Green, are paying the stipends?
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    Where did you hear this? Nothing in the minutes from the BOR meeting about that.
    It wasn't coming from the BOR.

    https://www.alaska.edu/state/report/

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by Suze View Post
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. The players on this years team were solid enough to not end up in last place. That is on the coach. The last I read UA_ didn't offer stipends either. Anyone know which WCHA schools, other than Bowling Green, are paying the stipends?
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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska Hockey View Post
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    Really? UA_ too? I never know when you are serious or being facetious.
    Originally Posted by aparch
    I love the "UA_" comment. When I see it, I think of re-runs of Match Game, and Gene Rayburn going "U, A, Blank... UA blank"

    From ADN:

    "According to NCAA, the (UAF) hockey team used ineligible players in every game played from the 2007-08 season to the 2010-11 season. Over that span, the wins and ties will all become losses. 4 wins and 2 ties came against rival UAA".

    UAF is 56-86-12 vs. UAA.

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by fanpain2 View Post
    The SOG numbers suck!
    Are those numbers available for the years Thomas has been the coach?
    Has it been a steady decline?
    Without an increase in SOG numbers the team is doomed to the same dismal results as this year.
    Not looking for anyones head but something has to change.
    SOG was a problem with Shyiak as well.
    “At the end of the day, the Gov Cup is just a trophy,” UAA senior Jordan Kwas said. “I’d rather be in the Final Five every time over winning the Gov Cup.”

    Matt Thomas' Record
    (2013-14) 18-16-4
    (2014-15) 8-22-4
    (2015-16) 11-20-3
    (2016-17) 7-21-6
    (Total) 44-79-17

    2016-17 Word(s) of the Season: Medicore coaching for 24 years due to administration

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    Re: UAA `16-17 Let's end this thing with a BANG

    Quote Originally Posted by USCH1 View Post
    ECHL should not even be a factor. Many players that can play there don't want to. Percentage numbers for the AHL are small and chances for the NHL are about 1.5% of all players in the world and figure in the politics. In my opinion, hard to use your progression numbers to make a team competitive. Bemidji 0 draft picks and first in the WCHA, University of Michigan always loaded with draft picks and have struggled to make the playoffs, 2015 Union beats University of Minnesota who is loaded with draft picks.
    Yes, but your coaches developing you so that they can play in the AHL or NHL is definitely desired by players.
    “At the end of the day, the Gov Cup is just a trophy,” UAA senior Jordan Kwas said. “I’d rather be in the Final Five every time over winning the Gov Cup.”

    Matt Thomas' Record
    (2013-14) 18-16-4
    (2014-15) 8-22-4
    (2015-16) 11-20-3
    (2016-17) 7-21-6
    (Total) 44-79-17

    2016-17 Word(s) of the Season: Medicore coaching for 24 years due to administration

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