An Experiment: A Literal Political Thread

[Kepler]

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So basically all the reasons why people in the know vote for Republicans: rentiers, traders, corporate welfare recipients, and the wealthy. Got it.

[burd]

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I have heard some people express bewilderment that right wing candidates have as much support as they do.

I can think of plenty of good reasons for people to vote for right wing candidates, in some cases, because they believe they are corrupt; in other cases, they merely don't care at all either way.

1) Poorly educated white males in Alabama.

2) Poorly educated white males in Mississippi.

3) Poorly educated white males in Louisiana.

4) Poorly educated white males in Georgia.

5) Poorly educated white males in Arkansas.

6) All people in Wasila Ak.

7) Gopher fans.
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[FreshFish]

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So basically all the reasons why people in the know vote for Republicans: rentiers, traders, corporate welfare recipients, and the wealthy. Got it.

Yes, unfortunately, the rich and powerful control both political parties, and the only consequence of any election is which group of rich and powerful gets to divide up the spoils. More wealthy people vote D than R, you know....

[Kepler]

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Yes, unfortunately, the rich and powerful control both political parties, and the only consequence of any election is which group of rich and powerful gets to divide up the spoils. More wealthy people vote D than R, you know....

That's education.

The more you know the more you vote Dem, but the more you know the more you make and the more you make the more you vote Republican, so it's all a wash.

The domination of the two parties by the wealthy is bad, but the GOP welcomes it -- it's part of their mission statement. The Dems are theoretically opposed to it, though as time passes I'm becoming more convinced that since the actual party leaders are themselves wealthy those may be crocodile tears.

Still one place to go. I particularly like that the torches look like ice cream cones.

[MaizeRage]

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4) Leaders of public sector unions, she will keep hiring and expanding government, more dues for their coffers! Teachers' unions in particular, no way we will see any educational reform that puts students first: they don't vote, they don't pay union dues, they count for nothing.

The right had their shot at education reform and it was a massive failure. Take the L and stop whining.

[ScoobyDoo]

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The right had their shot at education reform and it was a massive failure. Take the L and stop whining.

They had a shot at health care reform to and blew it.
They had a shot at fixing the Middle East. Blew that.
They had multiple shots at trickle down economics. Blown.
They had a shot at locking up drug users. Blown.
They had a shot at fixing Social Security and Medicare. Blown.

And, we have a man in office who has tried his heart out to implement complex fixes to many issues and they have blocked him at every turn. And the blockage only gets worse when Hillary gets elected.

[Kepler]

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And the blockage only gets worse when Hillary gets elected.

We'll see.

Any chamber controlled by the GOP might as well not even convene, but Hillary plus the Senate can do a fair amount -- if nothing else they can help the judiciary recover from the last 40 years of wingnut abuse, and undo the Great Unwinding of voting, worker, and reproductive rights.

Budget bills and active legislation are dead unless and until the Democrats get their act together in the House. I've read we will need to win the net House vote by 7M votes just to get back to 50% due to a variety of factors, not all of which are nefarious. That could happen if the bottom falls out with Apricot Adolf, but don't hold your breath -- the GOP seems to be holding serve in AZ and GA which means no wave is coming.

[FreshFish]

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The domination of the two parties by the wealthy is bad, but the GOP welcomes it -- it's part of their mission statement. The Dems are theoretically opposed to it, though as time passes I'm becoming more convinced that since the actual party leaders are themselves wealthy those may be crocodile tears.

or they are really good at fooling lots of people for long periods of time, and the media are complicit in the charade since they too have privileged positions of wealth and power to preserve...


btw, intelligent people generally are much easier to manipulate than ordinary people, all you need to do is flatter them on how smart they are..... I wouldn't be surprised if that is an important element in the Democrats' appeal.

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

So basically all the reasons why people in the know vote for Republicans: rentiers, traders, corporate welfare recipients, and the wealthy. Got it.

I like how he's finally stopped hiding his "BSABSVR" shtick lately.

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I can think of plenty of good reasons for people to vote for right wing candidates ...

1) Poorly educated white males in Alabama.

2) Poorly educated white males in Mississippi.

3) Poorly educated white males in Louisiana.

4) Poorly educated white males in Georgia.

5) Poorly educated white males in Arkansas.

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(emphasis mine)

The right had their shot at education reform and it was a massive failure. Take the L and stop whining.

Why in the world would they want to fix education?

[Kepler]

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btw, intelligent people generally are much easier to manipulate than ordinary people, all you need to do is flatter them on how smart they are..... I wouldn't be surprised if that is an important element in the Democrats' appeal.

You shifted ground and it nullifies your argument.

You jumped to intelligence, whereas I simply talked about education. Education is what makes people more tolerant, not intelligence. There are lots of really intelligent jerks. Intelligence might even make people more jerky because they've had to deal with the small brains all their lives which is tiring.

Of course there's also the Lake Wobegone problem when it just comes to intelligence: most people think they're more intelligent than they actually are, and stupider people tend to overestimate their intelligence by proportionally larger amounts because their stupidity indicates deprivation of the ability to reason correctly from their experiences.

[walrus]

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They had a shot at health care reform to and blew it.
They had a shot at fixing the Middle East. Blew that.
They had multiple shots at trickle down economics. Blown.
They had a shot at locking up drug users. Blown.
They had a shot at fixing Social Security and Medicare. Blown.

And, we have a man in office who has tried his heart out to implement complex fixes to many issues and they have blocked him at every turn. And the blockage only gets worse when Hillary gets elected.

You actually think anyone wants to fix any of that? How do the rich get richer fixing that stuff?

[dxmnkd316]

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We'll see.

Any chamber controlled by the GOP might as well not even convene, but Hillary plus the Senate can do a fair amount -- if nothing else they can help the judiciary recover from the last 40 years of wingnut abuse, and undo the Great Unwinding of voting, worker, and reproductive rights.

Budget bills and active legislation are dead unless and until the Democrats get their act together in the House. I've read we will need to win the net House vote by 7M votes just to get back to 50% due to a variety of factors, not all of which are nefarious. That could happen if the bottom falls out with Apricot Adolf, but don't hold your breath -- the GOP seems to be holding serve in AZ and GA which means no wave is coming.

Tangerine Tyrant?

[Kepler]

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Tangerine Tyrant?

Pumpkin bumpkin

[dxmnkd316]

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Ochre Orge?