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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    So does that mean the BLM is a stupid movement? Does that mean BLM in general hates whites?

    What is your point?
    My point was it isnt as cut and dry as Kepler made it out to be.

    And that is more of a point than you make in 98% of your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    My personal impression is that it's a valid movement with **** poor leadership. They take one step forward and then 5 steps backwards by shooting themselves in the foot with poor tactical decisions.
    They don't really have leadership -- they're more like Occupy, rallying independently around a central idea, coordinating peer-to-peer rather than hub of the wheel.

    As with Occupy, we might be seeing the inherent flaw in that structure. It makes sense to organize that way if you're being forced underground by a repressive regime. Then you go for the Heinlein "terrorist cell" model. But Occupy and BLM don't have that problem (at least not yet). They could use a management seminar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    My point was it isnt as cut and dry as Kepler made it out to be.
    It wasn't my intention to say it is cut and dried. My point was as an organization (insofar as it has a central voice) they are quite explicit concerning what they are about, and they have at least gone to the trouble to "FAQ" some of the more common distortions of their philosophy.

    YMMV always goes along with these things. I merely wanted to say we don't have to guess about what they themselves are saying they are. It's right there in black and white.

    I highly recommend Larry Wilmore on this subject. He and his guests have been talking about BLM a lot over the past months and I'm sure they will continue to.

    Samantha Bee also did a great job on it in her last show from the RNC.

    There's snark in their presentations, but there's also a perspective to at least give a hearing to.
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    I think one thing that skews people's view of BLM is the fact they're bringing up a topic that either people even deny exists or makes people very uncomfortable, and they're doing it in a manner that people are very uncomfortable with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    I think one thing that skews people's view of BLM is the fact they're bringing up a topic that either people even deny exists or makes people very uncomfortable, and they're doing it in a manner that people are very uncomfortable with.
    And at least in Mpls, they continue to break the law and oftentimes cause trouble just to cause trouble (not saying violence, I don't think BLM is about that; I think those people are few in number). Then when they get arrested for breaking the law, they scream about racism/heavy-handed police tactics, etc. Sorry, if you block a highway or decide to block a street for a week or two, you're going to get arrested (or at least should be arrested).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    You know better than most the media coverage of a political event is always driven by an agenda. When trying to find out what an organization's goals are, a good place to start is their mission statement.

    The far right's race war fantasies are about selling bunker supplies and ammo to an audience kept in perpetual terror. You should also recognize that strategy -- it's a classic PsyOp.
    Never heard of a live stream, have you? Mission statements can also be construed as propaganda. Watch a rally from a third-party Ustream reporter, uncut, unedited, right as it happens. You'll learn a hell of a lot more than the hogwash you're trying to feed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    My point was it isnt as cut and dry as Kepler made it out to be.

    And that is more of a point than you make in 98% of your posts.

    Now go back to dodging bullets on 394 it is almost rush hour...
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Clown View Post
    The best way to solve it is to get a large number of black people into the police force, have them act as the primary patrols for predominantly black neighborhoods. It's an unfortunate segregation of communities by race, but for the time being it looks to be the best solution. Minneapolis has been pushing for this for a long time now, but the MPD has stated repeatedly that they receive very few qualified applicants from the black community. While that's where the comments from MPD end, it's likely a factor of the failing schools, which is likely rooted in poverty, which, in turn, creates difficulty in getting the necessary education so the black community can produce enough qualified applicants to then be hired by the MPD - the payoff is too much in the long-term and families' economic needs are far too immediate. Local departments have had some better luck with the Hmong population, which is a significant size in St. Paul, more than Minneapolis. Actually, the last time I got pulled over was by a Hmong officer with the state patrol.
    It would take a generation -- at least -- for this to have a positive impact. Right now too many black people see a black cop as a traitor to the cause or their race. They see blue, not black.

    Something I wish would come to pass is a more liberal adoption of the BLM movement by whites, and a more welcoming BLM movement opening their arms to white support. Evidence is showing reluctance in many pockets of America to this. Both sides are to blame. Our society is too full of people who will no longer listen to or even see the "other" side. The civil rights movement in the 1960s was far more diverse than it is now. Yes, led by people who were tired of being oppressed but, IMO, far more welcoming of any allies, no matter the community they came from. For us to make progress at the pace we did decades ago, this has to happen again and until it does we will continue to see things pretty much as they are today.

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    Why don't I ever get pulled over*? I would really like to pay off my house.

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    5 members of the Pink Panther gang arrested.

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    Remember the POS who shot up the South Carolina church, apparently some inmate assaulted the piece of crap, folks raised 100k to bail the inmate out TF
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    Was she black? The goal of the exercise was to teach "the role and responsibility of the various city departments and services they provide to the community."
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    Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

    So, guy has a stolen gun, doesn't do what the police ask him to, gets shot. And the solution is to burn down Milwaukee? Disgusting.

    Note: I don't wish the deceased dead, BUT, he made some bad decisions that had bad results. Sickened by the reaction to the officers/medical personnel. Horrible. Absolutely horrible.
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    The deceased better be dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    But can he still vote?
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    Re: Cops 4: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

    From people I know in Milwaukee this shooting, while causing similar unrest as other well-known recent police killings of black men, is different in a number of important ways. One, the cop who shot him is also black, so the racial aspects have to be looked at very carefully. Racism is probably not a factor as we might normally think. Two, the dead suspect clearly was armed with a loaded semi-auto handgun that was stolen (along with hundreds of rounds of ammo). Three, he was charged within the last year in a shooting and separately charged with trying to intimidate a witness in that shooting. I believe that the cops involved in this (at least some of them) knew who this guy was and knew of his gun crimes.

    Anybody who has read my blather in this or similar threads knows I don't hold law enforcement in the highest regard in 2016, but this shooting looks to me (albeit with the limited knowledge I and all of you have) like it was probably unavoidable given the circumstances and due almost entirely to the behavior of the victim. While still tragic, it looks like this one is not criminal.

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