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  • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
    You do realize that the law right now is that if you've been confined in a mental institution, or if you've been adjudicated as a mental defective or incompetent, it is illegal to possess a firearm? That position is actually supported by the NRA.
    and DrewS had a fit because "Obama wanted to take guns away from poor people" but really we were talking about people that had been deemed incapable of managing their affairs by the social security administration

    besides, mental health services have been gutted, most mentally ill people never get confined to a mental institution or are adjudicated as mentally defective

    I'm not comfortable with many of the people that own firearms. I wish there were a mandatory licensing process that included safety training, liability insurance, a gun registry, a criminal background check, and a psychiatric evaluation. All paid for by a tax on gun and ammo sales. I'd be completely fine with repealing/replacing the second amendment. Too bad we've allowed our society to become a bunch of gun obsessed nut jobs that are 1) too scared to get the mail out of their mailbox without a gun, and 2) obsessed with building their own personal stockpile of weapons. The toothpaste is out of the tube. I'm guessing I may have to flee the country at some point, because the rednecks are so plentiful, armed, and insane.

    True story -- my friend and his husband bought a gun for home protection (despite the fact that we live in a very low crime area - I often leave one or more of my doors unlocked while I'm at work, no idea why he thought they needed it). They took a gun safety class from a licensed instructor. This instructor bragged that he was never more than 10 feet from a loaded gun in his house, his wife carried a loaded pistol in her purse (safety off of course), and he wouldn't even go to the end of his driveway to get his mail without a gun (safety off, because it might take too long to turn the safety off). I don't even want this guy owning a gun, but apparently he has dozens AND he's teaching other people about guns.

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    • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

      Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
      You do realize that the law right now is that if you've been confined in a mental institution, or if you've been adjudicated as a mental defective or incompetent, it is illegal to possess a firearm? That position is actually supported by the NRA.
      It actually isn't. They lobbied to remove restrictions like that just recently. It passed the CRA and was removed from the books a month or two ago.
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      Originally posted by SanTropez
      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
      Originally posted by Kepler
      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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      • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

        Originally posted by BassAle View Post
        This instructor bragged that he was never more than 10 feet from a loaded gun in his house, his wife carried a loaded pistol in her purse (safety off of course), and he wouldn't even go to the end of his driveway to get his mail without a gun (safety off, because it might take too long to turn the safety off). I don't even want this guy owning a gun, but apparently he has dozens AND he's teaching other people about guns.
        That's terrifying.
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        Originally posted by SanTropez
        May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
        Originally posted by bigblue_dl
        I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
        Originally posted by Kepler
        When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
        He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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        • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
          It actually isn't. They lobbied to remove restrictions like that just recently. It passed the CRA and was removed from the books a month or two ago.
          Correct.
          **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

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          • Originally posted by BassAle View Post
            and DrewS had a fit because "Obama wanted to take guns away from poor people" but really we were talking about people that had been deemed incapable of managing their affairs by the social security administration

            besides, mental health services have been gutted, most mentally ill people never get confined to a mental institution or are adjudicated as mentally defective

            I'm not comfortable with many of the people that own firearms. I wish there were a mandatory licensing process that included safety training, liability insurance, a gun registry, a criminal background check, and a psychiatric evaluation. All paid for by a tax on gun and ammo sales. I'd be completely fine with repealing/replacing the second amendment. Too bad we've allowed our society to become a bunch of gun obsessed nut jobs that are 1) too scared to get the mail out of their mailbox without a gun, and 2) obsessed with building their own personal stockpile of weapons. The toothpaste is out of the tube. I'm guessing I may have to flee the country at some point, because the rednecks are so plentiful, armed, and insane.

            True story -- my friend and his husband bought a gun for home protection (despite the fact that we live in a very low crime area - I often leave one or more of my doors unlocked while I'm at work, no idea why he thought they needed it). They took a gun safety class from a licensed instructor. This instructor bragged that he was never more than 10 feet from a loaded gun in his house, his wife carried a loaded pistol in her purse (safety off of course), and he wouldn't even go to the end of his driveway to get his mail without a gun (safety off, because it might take too long to turn the safety off). I don't even want this guy owning a gun, but apparently he has dozens AND he's teaching other people about guns.
            Bullying is a sign of strength and carrying a gun everywhere you go is a sign of courage, amirite?

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            • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

              Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
              But that's just me. I think posters here need to stop projecting their fears, thoughts and world views onto everyone else.
              Something projected the fear on to your friend somehow.

              Fear enough that she felt the need to always carry a deadly weapon around.

              Was it the main stream media, entertainment, social media, or a personal event that put that kind of fear into people?

              Really- is it actually rational to feel the need to have a gun at all times? Sort of like the discussion that happened at the RNC- where don said that crime is up, and Newt backed him even when challenged with data that said otherwise. Basing decisions on feeling vs. data makes it hard.

              Regardless- it's still a symptom that people think that violence is a proper way of solving problems. Remember when some woman shot at someone that was supposedly shoplifting something? When did shoplifting become a capitol crime? That's a very irrational way of solving a problem.

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              • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                Violence is always a way and always will be a method of solving a problem.

                As long as there is one violent person/entity out there you need at least one violent person/entity to oppose them.

                The Halkans were willing to die as a race. I'm not.
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                • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                  Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                  It actually isn't. They lobbied to remove restrictions like that just recently. It passed the CRA and was removed from the books a month or two ago.
                  That's inaccurate (it was widely misreported). The recent proposal was for anyone receiving Social Security benefits for a mental illness diagnosis to be added to the criminal database, so to be denied purchase on background checks. It did NOT pass. Nothing changed.
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                  • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                    Originally posted by geezer View Post
                    That's inaccurate (it was widely misreported). The recent proposal was for anyone receiving Social Security benefits for a mental illness diagnosis to be added to the criminal database, so to be denied purchase on background checks. It did NOT pass. Nothing changed.
                    Incorrect. It was for anyone who was both receiving social security benefits for a mental illness AND whose mental illness was severe enough to warrant someone else to handle their affairs be denied purchase. It did pass. It was removed under the CRA.

                    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ired/97299756/
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                    Originally posted by SanTropez
                    May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                    Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                    I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                    Originally posted by Kepler
                    When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                    He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                    • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Violence is always a way and always will be a method of solving a problem.

                      As long as there is one violent person/entity out there you need at least one violent person/entity to oppose them.

                      The Halkans were willing to die as a race. I'm not.
                      How very Christian of you...
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                      • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                        Incorrect. It was for anyone who was both receiving social security benefits for a mental illness AND whose mental illness was severe enough to warrant someone else to handle their affairs be denied purchase. It did pass. It was removed under the CRA.

                        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ired/97299756/
                        Geezer's right. The statute which prohibits persons who have been confined to a mental institution or adjudicated mentally incompetent from possessing a gun is still there.
                        That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                        • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                          Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                          Geezer's right. The statute which prohibits persons who have been confined to a mental institution or adjudicated mentally incompetent from possessing a gun is still there.
                          He wasn't referring to that provision. Nor was I.
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                          Originally posted by SanTropez
                          May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                          I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                          Originally posted by Kepler
                          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                          • Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                            How very Christian of you...
                            The right of survival overrides the 5th commandment.
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                            1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                            ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                            - Benjamin Franklin

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                            I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                            • Re: Days Since Last Mass Shooting: 0 - II

                              Originally posted by joecct View Post
                              The right of survival overrides the 5th commandment.
                              It does? How very Old Testament of you.
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                              Originally posted by SanTropez
                              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                              Originally posted by Kepler
                              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                              • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                                It does? How very Old Testament of you.
                                http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_cs...m/p3s2c2a5.htm
                                CCT '77 & '78
                                4 kids
                                5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                                1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                                ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                                - Benjamin Franklin

                                Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                                I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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