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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    Perhaps I shouldn't even mention this, but the fact that several players have left the team is beginning to bother me. Perhaps this is none of my business, but it sort of signals that something is somehow amiss

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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    Quote Originally Posted by wallhd View Post
    Perhaps I shouldn't even mention this, but the fact that several players have left the team is beginning to bother me. Perhaps this is none of my business, but it sort of signals that something is somehow amiss

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    This happens quite often there I remember when a bunch left in the middle of a season including 3 who went to Curry and their first game for Curry was back at the Ronny B. I think the only thing amiss is their record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spwood View Post
    73.2 Penalty – If, in the opinion of the official, an attacking player initiates contact that physically prevents the goalkeeper from defending the goal, the attacking player may receive a penalty. This penalty may be enforced whether or not the goalkeeper is inside or outside the goal crease and whether or not a goal is scored. The referee should give significant consideration to the degree and nature of the contact with the goalkeeper rather than to the exact location of the goalkeeper at the time of the contact.

    Even reading this, I'm not sure how an official in Plattsburgh's defensive zone calls goaltender interference on a play that occurred 25 feet outside of the crease on a 50/50 puck. Yes, there was contact, but only in the context that it was a race for a loose puck.
    Good Day....a couple of observations from "away" watching the games on line and with no prior knowledge of the Plattsburgh team.....On the penalty, the referee had no choice but to call the penalty....the Plattsburgh player made 0 effort to avoid the hit, and in fact launched into it.....apart from it being a penalty, its bad sportsmanship & had this been junior hockey someone would have addressed him on the ice...

    As far as the team's effort, I tend to agree with the announcer from the on line stream....The Cardinals played a strong game in the first period and executed a nice team strategy....Once they became frustrated - early second period - the individual play started and they were far less effective....Hot goalie or not, a team that looses its "team" discipline will underachieve...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pman View Post
    Good Day....a couple of observations from "away" watching the games on line and with no prior knowledge of the Plattsburgh team.....On the penalty, the referee had no choice but to call the penalty....the Plattsburgh player made 0 effort to avoid the hit, and in fact launched into it.....apart from it being a penalty, its bad sportsmanship & had this been junior hockey someone would have addressed him on the ice...
    I disagree with your description of the play. He was absolutely making a play for the puck. The contact was from both players reaching the puck at the same time. So you're saying if the goalie decided to skate the puck up the ice, the defending team would have to let me go all the way to the net? If this hadn't been a goaltender and two opposing skaters had met between the face off dots for a 50/50 puck, would contact have been OK then?

    As far as the team's effort, I tend to agree with the announcer from the on line stream....The Cardinals played a strong game in the first period and executed a nice team strategy....Once they became frustrated - early second period - the individual play started and they were far less effective....Hot goalie or not, a team that looses its "team" discipline will underachieve...[/QUOTE]

    Agree with you here, but you could also see a complete change in body language when the third goal was scored. Up until then, scoring chances were dominated by Plattsburgh.
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    Yes, the team dominated play in this game as seen by the shot totals. The Cards had 2 breakaways also but could not solve their goalie. I certainly hope they can take away some positives from this game despite the loss and carry that forward. I liked a lot of what I saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_TG View Post
    This happens quite often there I remember when a bunch left in the middle of a season including 3 who went to Curry and their first game for Curry was back at the Ronny B. I think the only thing amiss is their record.
    Add another....this isn't normal....and doesn't happen "quite often".... not 6 at mid season

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
    Add another....this isn't normal....and doesn't happen "quite often".... not 6 at mid season
    Much as it pains me to say it, evidently I am not the only one who feels this way.
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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    I could see 3 of them because of lack of playing time, but 3 players that were regulars including 2 of the top defensemen. This team better come together or no playoffs this year.

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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    Quote Originally Posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
    Add another....this isn't normal....and doesn't happen "quite often".... not 6 at mid season
    Just for some recent history:

    2016-17: 6 leave midseason
    2015-16: No movement
    2014-15: No movement
    2013-14: Spencer Finney arrives, Connor Creech leaves
    2012-13: No Movement
    2011-12: Matt Sollows, Daniel Cobb leave
    2010-11: Brad Devereaux, Chris Wieland, Blair Falotico, Ian DeLong, Mike Kavanagh all leave, Ryan Criag transfers in.
    2009-10: Peter Kaliscik leaves.

    8 seasons, over half have movement. Maybe describing it as quite often is an exaggeration and 6 is certainly the largest number we've seen but to act like it's unheard of to see movement during the season is an even bigger exaggeration.
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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    who left besides the 3 mention a month ago?? where di any of them go??

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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_TG View Post
    Just for some recent history:

    2016-17: 6 leave midseason
    2015-16: No movement
    2014-15: No movement
    2013-14: Spencer Finney arrives, Connor Creech leaves
    2012-13: No Movement
    2011-12: Matt Sollows, Daniel Cobb leave
    2010-11: Brad Devereaux, Chris Wieland, Blair Falotico, Ian DeLong, Mike Kavanagh all leave, Ryan Criag transfers in.
    2009-10: Peter Kaliscik leaves.

    8 seasons, over half have movement. Maybe describing it as quite often is an exaggeration and 6 is certainly the largest number we've seen but to act like it's unheard of to see movement during the season is an even bigger exaggeration.
    No one is saying movement isn't normal. It always has been. I can name you about 2 dozen more. That isn't the issue, it's the amount of movement. Losing 6 by mid-season end is troublesome. Take it from Wally and I who have been around this program a lot longer, this isn't normal and pretty alarming.

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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    Quote Originally Posted by bakdraft21 View Post
    who left besides the 3 mention a month ago?? where di any of them go??
    Ryan Chiasson, Sean Keating, Félix Périard, Brandon O’Quinn, Chris Taff and Santino Ragone...... haven't looked if any landed new homes...

    and also more rumors more on also on the fence of leaving...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
    Ryan Chiasson, Sean Keating, Félix Périard, Brandon O’Quinn, Chris Taff and Santino Ragone...... haven't looked if any landed new homes...

    and also more rumors more on also on the fence of leaving...
    If this is true about even more players considering it is troubling. O'Quinn given his leadership role is the most troubling...has what you heard give a reason why? Is there a common thread behind their reasons for leaving?



    Is this about Emery or could it be about Moffatt returning or Coppola being gone? How much recruiting did Coppola do when he was here and could he have been the guy who brought these guys who are leaving in? Does anyone know how is the recruiting split between Emery and his assistants?
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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    Quote Originally Posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
    Ryan Chiasson, Sean Keating, Félix Périard, Brandon O’Quinn, Chris Taff and Santino Ragone...... haven't looked if any landed new homes...

    and also more rumors more on also on the fence of leaving...
    now thats alot of players,would think it may have to do with coaches in one way or another,I m sure it will shake out and Platty will find its way back into the mix....if not this yr then next

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    Tip of the hat for the heart shown tonight. At the start of third I never thought you'd have me sweating it out.
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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    Word has it, by some of the Quebec kids that were there, that Rouleau and Emery got nose to nose in a heated argument. Which makes sense why we didn't see him pull Davies in the 2nd. Something has to give, if that was the case Emery put himself above the good of the team. Who knows what may have happened if he would have made that switch, that most coach's would have made.

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    Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2016-17 - Bob's Head Coach Season 28

    Quote Originally Posted by dmac1103 View Post
    Word has it, by some of the Quebec kids that were there, that Rouleau and Emery got nose to nose in a heated argument. Which makes sense why we didn't see him pull Davies in the 2nd. Something has to give, if that was the case Emery put himself above the good of the team. Who knows what may have happened if he would have made that switch, that most coach's would have made.
    does Platty have a fairly competent 3rd netminder?? could have gone that way as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakdraft21 View Post
    does Platty have a fairly competent 3rd netminder?? could have gone that way as well
    No. High school walk on

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    Why they ever let Keats go is just beyond belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckshooter93 View Post
    Why they ever let Keats go is just beyond belief.
    He left....

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