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  • #76
    Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    If they can't recite a passage from the bible put 'em to sleep?
    A bad cause requires many words.

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    • #77
      Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

      Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
      not wrong but definitely incomplete. After the surge, Iraq was stable and the Sunnis and Shias were actually cooperating at the beginning of 2009. Both Bush and his successor contributed plenty to this mess.
      sure. we could have occupied Iraq forever. No one wanted that though.

      How about we blame the person that got us that mess in the first place?

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      • #78
        Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

        Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
        not wrong but definitely incomplete. After the surge, Iraq was stable and the Sunnis and Shias were actually cooperating at the beginning of 2009.
        Talk less. Read more.

        SPIEGEL ONLINE: In February 2004, you already had Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in your hands -- he was imprisoned in in a military camp, but got cleared later as harmless by a US military commission. How could that fatal mistake happen?

        Flynn: We were too dumb. We didn't understand who we had there at that moment. When 9/11 occurred, all the emotions took over, and our response was, "Where did those ******** come from? Let's go kill them. Let's go get them." Instead of asking why they attacked us, we asked where they came from. Then we strategically marched in the wrong direction.

        SPIEGEL ONLINE: The US invaded Iraq even though Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11.

        Flynn: First we went to Afghanistan, where al-Qaida was based. Then we went into Iraq. Instead of asking ourselves why the phenomenon of terror occurred, we were looking for locations. This is a major lesson we must learn in order not to make the same mistakes again.

        SPIEGEL ONLINE: The Islamic State wouldn't be where it is now without the fall of Baghdad. Do you regret ...

        Flynn: ... yes, absolutely ...

        SPIEGEL ONLINE: ... the Iraq war?

        Flynn: It was huge error. As brutal as Saddam Hussein was, it was a mistake to just eliminate him. The same is true for Moammar Gadhafi and for Libya, which is now a failed state. The historic lesson is that it was a strategic failure to go into Iraq. History will not be and should not be kind with that decision.
        And for that matter, when Obama pulled out of Iraq he was following the agreement that Dubya signed.

        The current administration has been playing whack-a-mole with these idiots, but they were created by the guy people wanted to have a beer with. A $3T, 100k life beer. And counting.
        Last edited by Kepler; 07-15-2016, 11:12 AM.
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        • #79
          Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

          Good news, everyone. He's been studying the situation closely.
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          • #80
            Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

            Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
            not wrong but definitely incomplete. After the surge, Iraq was stable and the Sunnis and Shias were actually cooperating at the beginning of 2009. Both Bush and his successor contributed plenty to this mess.
            The Surge was a fraud. Everyone knew as soon as we left an area it would fall back into madness. Dubya's successor is not to blame for this no matter how much you pretend he is.
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            • #81
              Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Ironically, the guy who actually started this sh-tball rolling is the same guy who is responsible for the only lasting positive accomplishment. Carter brokered peace between Israel and Egypt which has been incalculably helpful. But he also pioneered the Carter Doctrine, where we essentially extend the Monroe Doctrine to the Middle Eastern oil fields and declare that we have a right to and will use our military there whenever we feel our oil supply is in danger.
              Hey, it isn't our fault our oil is under their sand.

              Now, about Nice...

              Sounds like a very devoted Muslim.

              The Nice attacker's cousin speaks
              'He drank alcohol, ate pork & took drugs. He was NOT a Muslim - he was a ****'

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              • #82
                Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                Dude sat parked on the route for 9 hours prior, when questioned by Police, he told them he was delivering ice cream. They let him sit there for 9 hrs. Wow.
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                • #83
                  Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                  Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                  Dude sat parked on the route for 9 hours prior, when questioned by Police, he told them he was delivering ice cream. They let him sit there for 9 hrs. Wow.
                  Guess we have to make it illegal to park a vehicle, then...

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                  • #84
                    Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                    Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                    sure. we could have occupied Iraq forever. No one wanted that though.

                    How about we blame the person that got us that mess in the first place?
                    Bush is to blame, what about Arab Spring and Libya, are Hilary and Obama to blame for that mess?
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                    • #85
                      Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                      Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                      Dude sat parked on the route for 9 hours prior, when questioned by Police, he told them he was delivering ice cream. They let him sit there for 9 hrs. Wow.
                      That's a well-insulated ice cream truck.
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                      • #86
                        Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                        Originally posted by walrus View Post
                        Bush is to blame, what about Arab Spring and Libya, are Hilary and Obama to blame for that mess?
                        Egypt, Syria, Yemen and Libya are all on them. So there's plenty of blame to spread around. But for Iraq you have to go back to the Halliburton Boyz and the KBR Kittens.
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                        • #87
                          Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                          Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                          How about we blame the person that got us that mess in the first place?
                          the people who arbitrarily drew lines on a map dividing up the middle east among colonial powers at the end of WWI.

                          Tribal identity, not "national" identity, has driven all the conflicts. If tribal boundaries and national boundaries were the same, many fewer problems.



                          or we could say GHW Bush for not taking out Saddam in 1991.




                          Or most appropriately (and this is who I blame the most), France's Jacques Chirac. GW Bush had the Security Council of the UN, including Russia and China all lined up to approve international action against Saddam for his failure to comply with UN resolutions requiring inspections for weapons of mass destruction. Then Chirac vetoed it (not Russia, not China).

                          It turns out that half of Chirac's government ministers were on Saddam's payroll, accepting bribes under the "oil for food" program that was put in place to alleviate the suffering of the Iraqi people under international sanctions.

                          Let's replay the Iraq war as a UN action, not a US action.
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                          • #88
                            Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                            Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                            Guess we have to make it illegal to park a vehicle, then...
                            No, just be suspicious of a guy who takes 9 hours to deliver ice cream at an event where there is a large group of people congregating. It's the Polices' job to get a little suspicious of unusual activities like this. Aren't we all encouraged to report suspicious activities to the Authorities?
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                            • #89
                              Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                              Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                              No, just be suspicious of a guy who takes 9 hours to deliver ice cream at an event where there is a large group of people congregating. It's the Polices' job to get a little suspicious of unusual activities like this. Aren't we all encouraged to report suspicious activities to the Authorities?
                              And then after doing so, be promptly arrested for a hate crime because your report was racist.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Global War on Terror 8 - Winter is Coming

                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                And then after doing so, be promptly arrested for a hate crime because your report was racist.
                                The French don't mind being racist about the A-rabs.
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