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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Oh crap! Somebody crossed the line, big time!!

    @BBCBreaking: Suicide bombing reported outside the Prophet's Mosque in Saudi city of Medina, one of Islam's holiest sites http://bbc.in/29jGj1l
    Oh no, that was just part of a three-for-one play.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/multiple-...191235559.html
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    Maybe do-chebags will stop with the "religion of peace strikes again" garbage now. This was an attack on Muhammed's tomb in the name of religion. That's like the Tea Party suicide bombing the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier in the name of patriotism.

    These people aren't religious fanatics, they're just fanatics who happen to communicate their insanity via religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    These people aren't religious fanatics, they're just fanatics who happen to communicate their insanity via religion.
    Just one problem:
    They call themselves the "Islamic State ... " so it's ISIS, ISIL, or the new and improved DA'ISH.

    OK, another problem:
    They tend (predominantly) to recruit folks of Islamic faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Just one problem:
    They call themselves the "Islamic State ... " so it's ISIS, ISIL, or the new and improved DA'ISH.

    OK, another problem:
    They tend (predominantly) to recruit folks of Islamic faith.
    And kill (predominantly) folks of Islamic faith. As for the name, the Westboro Baptist Church can tell you all about how much that matters.

    To a shut-in in Arkansas the only Muslims they ever hear about are terrorists, so Muslims are all terrorists. To anybody with half a brain a billion plus worldwide Muslims producing a handful of terrorists no more condemns all Muslims than a billion plus Christians producing a handful of Republicans condemns all Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    And kill (predominantly) folks of Islamic faith. As for the name, the Westboro Baptist Church can tell you all about how much that matters.
    That's the best argument to be made.

    Then you blow it because the rest of your post is your standard bigotry toward the South and Republicans. (And I'll go on record that ISIS, DA'ISH, whatever, is more than a handful of people.)
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    Then you blow it because the rest of your post is your standard bigotry toward the South and Republicans.
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    Cynicism is a name for observation by those who lack it.
    Oh, I whole-heartedly agree ...
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    Oh, I whole-heartedly agree ...
    That's the spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Then you blow it because the rest of your post is your standard bigotry toward the South and Republicans. (And I'll go on record that ISIS, DA'ISH, whatever, is more than a handful of people.)
    Sadly that shoe too often fits, and thousands relative to billions is a handful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    Sadly that shoe too often fits, and thousands relative to billions is a handful.
    It is a handful, but the people who project back onto the religion itself based on those numbers are ludicrous.

    It only seems like a cogent observation if you literally don't know any Muslims except the ones blowing themselves up on TV plus Kareem (and of course Obama). It's the equivalent of "knowing" blacks are criminals because you live in a leafy white suburb and only sees black people as perps on Cops.

    Most Muslims no doubt see the average Christian as a sniper picking off kids at a wedding. SSS and confirmation bias.
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    Spent a great 4th of July at a fireworks national tribute talking to a first generation Muslim Somali family. As cool as they were, they appeared even more enthusiastic to talk to me.

    Hope some day people realize that extremism exists everywhere. Movements (religion, nationalism, etc) typically offer important benefits to society. Yet extremists are frequently attracted to movements, because they can subvert them to their cause. Too much extremism kills the host movement.
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    Hope some day people realize that extremism exists everywhere. Movements (religion, nationalism, etc) typically offer important benefits to society. Yet extremists are frequently attracted to movements, because they can subvert them to their cause. Too much extremism kills the host movement.
    This is a good way to look at it. Religion and nationalism are emotional and personal psychological experiences. Extremism enters into them when the person is deeply ashamed, resentful and/or just plain ignorant.

    A religion is a car. Cars are very useful. An extremist behind the wheel misuses the car to run people down. That is not a reflection on the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    This is a good way to look at it. Religion and nationalism are emotional and personal psychological experiences. Extremism enters into them when the person is deeply ashamed, resentful and/or just plain ignorant.

    A religion is a car. Cars are very useful. An extremist behind the wheel misuses the car to run people down. That is not a reflection on the car.
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    Corvair??
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    A religion is a car. Cars are very useful. An extremist behind the wheel misuses the car to run people down. That is not a reflection on the car.
    You could write press releases for the NRA with statements like this.
    That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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    You could write press releases for the NRA with statements like this.
    That did occur to me. However, using a gun to kill someone is not misuse of the gun -- it's the whole point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    That did occur to me. However, using a gun to kill someone is not misuse of the gun -- it's the whole point.
    Now that could be a press release for the NRA: 'All the casualties with none of the benefit'
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    The Nuremberg Laws are up to 41% support.

    The next big attack we may as well just pack up lady liberty and return to sender. "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

    "Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she

    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,

    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    The Nuremberg Laws are up to 41% support.

    The next big attack we may as well just pack up lady liberty and return to sender. "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."
    Never let a crisis go to waste. Works every time, no matter what the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    That did occur to me. However, using a gun to kill someone is not misuse of the gun -- it's the whole point.
    So anyone who buys a gun should automatically be brought up on conspiracy to commit charges?

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