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  • #391
    Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    And you're an anti vaxer.
    Not at all. I'm part of the Satanic vax conspiracy. I just don't always give at the office.
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    • #392
      Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
      I will never understand people who don't get flu shots. Barring a medical reason, there really isn't a good reason to not get one.
      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      It's easy to understand. Laziness and fear of needles.
      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      And you're an anti vaxer.
      D. None of the Above (I get my blood drawn a few times a year, and I have no problem watching the needle go in, or the draw itself)

      It boils down to a calculated risk for me:

      1. I've never had the flu. A bad case of acute bronchitis once or twice, but never the flu.

      2. The flu vax is an educated guess at best. The 60% average increase in immunity applies only to healthy adults. So, the vaccine is most effective in that healthy adult group - the group at lowest risk to begin with. While it's a good idea to hedge your bets and get it if you're pediatric, geriatric, or work in healthcare, it's still not going to be as effective in patients with naturally weaker immune systems.

      3. Not an anti-vaxxer, but several years ago before I went off to Houghton, I had the bacterial meningitis vaccine. About a week later, I was hospitalized for meningitis-like symptoms that stemmed from encephalitis. After dozens of tests, the evidence seemed to point to a bad reaction to that vaccine. Having never had the flu, and not being in a high-risk group for contracting it, I see no reason to risk any potential complications, despite what the CDC says about them being minimal.

      Who knows? With all the airplane travel I do now, maybe this is my year of reckoning.

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      • #393
        Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

        Why there can't be an earthquake registering a 10 on the Richter scale. Probably.
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        • #394
          Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

          Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
          I will never understand people who don't get flu shots. Barring a medical reason, there really isn't a good reason to not get one.
          I learned something new this week. I asked Dr. Mrs. if she'd had her flu shot this year and she looked at me like I was Jack bursting through the door shouting "Honey, I'm home." Evidently her neurologist has cautioned her not to get flu shots because MS makes her susceptible to a cycle where the small amount of live vaccine starts her immune system chomping on her nerve sheaths (basically, my wife's body is attempting to strip her wires and turn her into a doorstop because, you know, God's incomprehensible mercy, love and grace).
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          • #395
            Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
            D. None of the Above (I get my blood drawn a few times a year, and I have no problem watching the needle go in, or the draw itself)

            It boils down to a calculated risk for me:

            1. I've never had the flu. A bad case of acute bronchitis once or twice, but never the flu.

            2. The flu vax is an educated guess at best. The 60% average increase in immunity applies only to healthy adults. So, the vaccine is most effective in that healthy adult group - the group at lowest risk to begin with. While it's a good idea to hedge your bets and get it if you're pediatric, geriatric, or work in healthcare, it's still not going to be as effective in patients with naturally weaker immune systems.

            3. Not an anti-vaxxer, but several years ago before I went off to Houghton, I had the bacterial meningitis vaccine. About a week later, I was hospitalized for meningitis-like symptoms that stemmed from encephalitis. After dozens of tests, the evidence seemed to point to a bad reaction to that vaccine. Having never had the flu, and not being in a high-risk group for contracting it, I see no reason to risk any potential complications, despite what the CDC says about them being minimal.

            Who knows? With all the airplane travel I do now, maybe this is my year of reckoning.
            im with you but now that I have a infant and father with cancer, I will be getting the flu shot to help protect them...I hate getting it because it never fails that I or my wife get sick shortly after getting the ****. This year it was my wife, although that is probably a bad combination of the shot and some mold issues at her work...
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            • #396
              Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

              The last time I got a flu shot I had a nasty flu a week later. Only had it once since. I got it from my fiancee who had the flu a week after receiving a flu shot.

              Coincidence? Probably. I just never get around to it, honestly. File me under the lazy category. I'm definitely no anti-vaxxer though.
              the state of hockey is good

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              • #397
                Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                I am a bit busy for a long post but there are many good reasons to get the flu shot. Among the top, it protects vulnerable populations who are not able to get the shot (as shirtless mentioned and as Keplar's wife can attest). It prevents large scale outbreaks even when it is not a great "guess." At worst, it will provide modest protection against a strain of influenza. If it provides 40% protection...think of it as a Kevlar vest that covers 40% of your body. Still better than no vest at all.

                There is also so much correlation, but not causation with illness. Most illness people associate with the "flu" are not influenza. Flu shot or no, you are very likely to get some sort of illness once fall or winter comes around ('round the time you get the vaccine) so it really takes a population outlook to get a realistic idea.

                Healthcare systems with strict flu shot policies have significantly less influenza morbidity and mortality. I do not get the choice to wash my hands in and out of patient rooms and I do not believe I should have a choice (save medical reasons) to not get a flu shot.

                Although there are some reactions associated with influenza vaccinations, there is strong evidence that getting the flu carries a greater risk of these complications (for example, guillian-barre syndrome).
                In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher'.

                Originally posted by burd
                I look at some people and I just know they do it doggy style. No way they're getting close to my kids.

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                • #398
                  Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                  Originally posted by WisconsinWildcard View Post
                  There is also so much correlation, but not causation with illness. Most illness people associate with the "flu" are not influenza. Flu shot or no, you are very likely to get some sort of illness once fall or winter comes around ('round the time you get the vaccine) so it really takes a population outlook to get a realistic idea.
                  Of course. Even when it happens within a reasonable incubation period.

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                  • #399
                    Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                    First they dump Pluto. OK, I can finally grasp that. But now? Alpha Centauri?? What is Tom Corbett going to do???
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                    • #400
                      Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      First they dump Pluto. OK, I can finally grasp that. But now? Alpha Centauri?? What is Tom Corbett going to do???
                      YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR TYSON! TOO FAR!!! a
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                      Originally posted by SanTropez
                      May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                      I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                      Originally posted by Kepler
                      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                      • #401
                        Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        First they dump Pluto. OK, I can finally grasp that. But now? Alpha Centauri?? What is Tom Corbett going to do???
                        Here are the 227. There was a time when I could have pointed to every one of them > 5.0 Mag in the northern hemisphere. Now I'll bet I can't even see most of them.

                        What a drag it is getting old.

                        They appear to have standardized spelling, but not pronunciation, leaving another generation stumped by Betelgeuse ("bay-tel-GUYS").
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                        • #402
                          Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Here are the 227. There was a time when I could have pointed to every one of them > 5.0 Mag in the northern hemisphere. Now I'll bet I can't even see most of them.

                          What a drag it is getting old.

                          They appear to have standardized spelling, but not pronunciation, leaving another generation stumped by Betelgeuse ("bay-tel-GUYS").

                          Beetle juice or GTFO
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                          As of 9/21/10:         As of 9/13/10:
College Hockey 6       College Football 0
BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                          Originally posted by SanTropez
                          May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                          I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                          Originally posted by Kepler
                          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                          • #403
                            Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                            Beetle juice or GTFO
                            That's like mispronouncing Taney. Professional death.
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                            • #404
                              Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                              https://news.osu.edu/news/2016/11/28/pineisland/

                              THis is ****ing depressing. If there's a silver lining, all of Trump's stupid palaces will be under water if this thing melts.
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                              As of 9/21/10:         As of 9/13/10:
College Hockey 6       College Football 0
BTHC 4                 WCHA FC:  1
                              Originally posted by SanTropez
                              May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                              Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                              I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                              Originally posted by Kepler
                              When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                              He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                              • #405
                                Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                                https://news.osu.edu/news/2016/11/28/pineisland/

                                THis is ****ing depressing. If there's a silver lining, all of Trump's stupid palaces will be under water if this thing melts.
                                Surely you're joking. FEMA will move his stuff stone by stone taxpayers' expense. That's how kleptocracy works.

                                Of course, they'll move it to the wrong place. That's how kakistocracy works.
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