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  • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

    Originally posted by SonofSouthie View Post
    I'd like to be, under the sea, in Zealandia.(apologies to Ringo Starr)

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=45564920
    Headline / clip disagreement. Bigly.
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    • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

      Global warming: science science science!

      Vaccines and autism: Where's THAT science?

      Courtesy of Robert DeNiro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8G-Lj6JYF8

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      • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

        Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
        Vaccines and autism: Where's THAT science?
        You're always thinkin'.
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        • Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
          Global warming: science science science!

          Vaccines and autism: Where's THAT science?

          Courtesy of Robert DeNiro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8G-Lj6JYF8
          We'd still have polio if this had been around when I was a kid.
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          • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

            Whoa.

            NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope has revealed the first known system of seven Earth-size planets around a single star. Three of these planets are firmly located in the habitable zone, the area around the parent star where a rocky planet is most likely to have liquid water.

            The discovery sets a new record for greatest number of habitable-zone planets found around a single star outside our solar system. All of these seven planets could have liquid water -- key to life as we know it -- under the right atmospheric conditions, but the chances are highest with the three in the habitable zone.

            "This discovery could be a significant piece in the puzzle of finding habitable environments, places that are conducive to life," said Thomas Zurbuchen, associate administrator of the agency's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. "Answering the question 'are we alone' is a top science priority and finding so many planets like these for the first time in the habitable zone is a remarkable step forward toward that goal."

            At about 40 light-years (235 trillion miles) from Earth, the system of planets is relatively close to us, in the constellation Aquarius. Because they are located outside of our solar system, these planets are scientifically known as exoplanets.

            This exoplanet system is called TRAPPIST-1, named for The Transiting Planets and Planetesimals Small Telescope (TRAPPIST) in Chile. In May 2016, researchers using TRAPPIST announced they had discovered three planets in the system. Assisted by several ground-based telescopes, including the European Southern Observatory's Very Large Telescope, Spitzer confirmed the existence of two of these planets and discovered five additional ones, increasing the number of known planets in the system to seven.

            The new results were published Wednesday in the journal Nature, and announced at a news briefing at NASA Headquarters in Washington.

            Using Spitzer data, the team precisely measured the sizes of the seven planets and developed first estimates of the masses of six of them, allowing their density to be estimated.

            Based on their densities, all of the TRAPPIST-1 planets are likely to be rocky. Further observations will not only help determine whether they are rich in water, but also possibly reveal whether any could have liquid water on their surfaces. The mass of the seventh and farthest exoplanet has not yet been estimated -- scientists believe it could be an icy, "snowball-like" world, but further observations are needed.

            "The seven wonders of TRAPPIST-1 are the first Earth-size planets that have been found orbiting this kind of star," said Michael Gillon, lead author of the paper and the principal investigator of the TRAPPIST exoplanet survey at the University of Liege, Belgium. "It is also the best target yet for studying the atmospheres of potentially habitable, Earth-size worlds."

            In contrast to our sun, the TRAPPIST-1 star -- classified as an ultra-cool dwarf -- is so cool that liquid water could survive on planets orbiting very close to it, closer than is possible on planets in our solar system. All seven of the TRAPPIST-1 planetary orbits are closer to their host star than Mercury is to our sun. The planets also are very close to each other. If a person were standing on one of the planet's surface, they could gaze up and potentially see geological features or clouds of neighboring worlds, which would sometimes appear larger than the moon in Earth's sky.

            The planets may also be tidally locked to their star, which means the same side of the planet is always facing the star, therefore each side is either perpetual day or night. This could mean they have weather patterns totally unlike those on Earth, such as strong winds blowing from the day side to the night side, and extreme temperature changes.

            Spitzer, an infrared telescope that trails Earth as it orbits the sun, was well-suited for studying TRAPPIST-1 because the star glows brightest in infrared light, whose wavelengths are longer than the eye can see. In the fall of 2016, Spitzer observed TRAPPIST-1 nearly continuously for 500 hours. Spitzer is uniquely positioned in its orbit to observe enough crossing -- transits -- of the planets in front of the host star to reveal the complex architecture of the system. Engineers optimized Spitzer's ability to observe transiting planets during Spitzer's "warm mission," which began after the spacecraft's coolant ran out as planned after the first five years of operations.

            "This is the most exciting result I have seen in the 14 years of Spitzer operations," said Sean Carey, manager of NASA's Spitzer Science Center at Caltech/IPAC in Pasadena, California. "Spitzer will follow up in the fall to further refine our understanding of these planets so that the James Webb Space Telescope can follow up. More observations of the system are sure to reveal more secrets."
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Agree. But we need Zefram Cochrane.
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              • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                Agree. But we need Zefram Cochrane.
                Here's another solution, but it's a bit twitchy.

                My current favorite.
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                • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                  I understand that the Mouse Utopia Experiments have been around since the 1950s; nevertheless, I had just heard about them recently.

                  Several breeding pair of mice were introduced into a predator-free environment in which they had all the food and water they needed provided to them.

                  After enough new mice had been born to create a mouse society, after several additional generations, there was total societal breakdown, fertility plummeted, and they all died out.

                  there are plenty of stories about it available.
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                  • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                    Is this a Buckaroo Banzai moment??

                    http://www.physics-astronomy.com/201...1#.WK-kXB9OnqA
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                    • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      "Where are we going?"
                      "Planet Ten!"
                      "When?"
                      "Real soon!"
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                      • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                        5 reasons not to vaccinate your kids.

                        http://totallythebomb.com/5-reasons-...nate-your-kids
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                        • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                          Originally posted by joecct View Post
                          5 reasons not to vaccinate your kids.

                          http://totallythebomb.com/5-reasons-...nate-your-kids
                          Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

                          Darwin says, ixne on the accinationsve...
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                          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

                            Darwin says, ixne on the accinationsve...
                            Even as a joke, no.

                            Because not vaccinating doesn't just hurt their kids, but others as well. It reduces herd immunity, and can cause people who are actually allergic to vaccinations or where the vaccination doesn't take to get sick as well.

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                            • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                              Originally posted by unofan View Post
                              Even as a joke, no.

                              Because not vaccinating doesn't just hurt their kids, but others as well. It reduces herd immunity, and can cause people who are actually allergic to vaccinations or where the vaccination doesn't take to get sick as well.
                              You're no fun. And anyway, demographic co-location means we still win in the long run.
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                              • Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                                1. This sucks.

                                2. That top Comment, though, is exactly what I and I suspect you thought as you read.
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