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  • #376
    Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Now, as the future curve of the economy bends down as the rest of the world can finally compete, we choose protectionism and nativist xenophobia. We have not ever been tested to live up to our ideals without failing.
    Well, that's inherently the problem. We effectively have no ideals. Cause when faced with defending them we chose instead to run and hide. Sure, we'll stick around forever. The military might appears to be our one ace in the hole because it's the one thing the nativist's forever cling.
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    • #377
      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      I have suggested to my daughter that she explore opportunities teaching English in other countries. Firstly it gets her out of here until this sh-t blows over. Secondly, she might meet somebody over there which would give her the option of flipping.

      There are at least a dozen countries where I would prefer to live than the US if I were young enough to start over. Not just as a reaction to The Great Mistake, but in general to steer clear of paying taxes to support the Imperial Storm Troopers and the plutes.

      I am only gen 3 on either side. We came here for a better life, more freedom, and more opportunity. My great-grand parents are proof that people vote with their feet.

      America is not real estate, it's the principles in a few documents and a few great minds. If those things have moved elsewhere, then America is elsewhere. This place, for whatever reason, is less America every day.
      My wife and I only half jokingly looked into what it would take to become licensed in Canada. The barriers are sufficient that it's not worth pursuing at this point (especially with a newborn), but it's feasible enough that if things get worse, we could probably do it if we really felt like we had to. It'd essentially cost us about $3000 each and time studying for a much easier version of the bar exam.

      Considering this nation was founded by immigrants, it is amazing how people react to people even considering emigrating.
      Last edited by unofan; 11-17-2016, 10:18 AM.

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      • #378
        Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

        You know its a bad day when Chinese leadership schools your own leadership regarding science (i.e., environment/global warming)

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        All the science will never be gone, IMO.
        Agreed. But after too long, there is such a thing as brain drain.
        Go Gophers!

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        • #379
          Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

          Originally posted by unofan View Post
          My wife and I only half jokingly looked into what it would take to become licensed in Canada.
          With friends in both Eastern Europe and Columbia, I could see a 50/50 split. Couldn't hurt my single life.
          Go Gophers!

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          • #380
            Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
            Well, that's inherently the problem. We effectively have no ideals. Cause when faced with defending them we chose instead to run and hide. Sure, we'll stick around forever. The military might appears to be our one ace in the hole because it's the one thing the nativist's forever cling.
            We have ideals -- that stuff they taught in fifth grade civics when I was a kid, and the subject of every Frank Capra movie. The exceptionalism of America is its ideals. The savagery and brutality of a portion of the population is hardly unique to us and it doesn't invalidate our ideals.

            The 3%ers are right about one thing. I doubt whether 3% of the population ever put their lives on the line for abolition or the civil rights movement or the women's right movement. That in itself is OK -- it seems to be the calculus of social change.

            What's new and broken now is that the cowards won at the ballot box. A sizeable portion of the country voted to stick their fingers in the ears. Sure, Reagan was like that, but in that case it was a Pollyanna optimism. This time, it was Moloch.
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            • #381
              Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

              The first clinical trial.
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              • #382
                Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                I think we put the solar power debate here. It appears Elon Musk is trying to make it work.

                https://www.google.com/amp/www.theve...grid-tau-samoa
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                • #383
                  Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                  Originally posted by joecct View Post
                  I think we put the solar power debate here. It appears Elon Musk is trying to make it work.

                  https://www.google.com/amp/www.theve...grid-tau-samoa
                  That's a pretty cool idea and seems perfect for those thousands of islands scattered through the equatorial Pacific.
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                  • #384
                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    That's a pretty cool idea and seems perfect for those thousands of islands scattered through the equatorial Pacific.
                    Level Staten Island and have the resulting grid power NYC!!!
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                    1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

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                    • #385
                      Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Level Boston and have the resulting grid power NYC!!!
                      Better idea, and incredibly satisfying.
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                      • #386
                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        That's a pretty cool idea and seems perfect for those thousands of islands scattered through the equatorial Pacific.
                        Talk about damming with faint praise....
                        If you don't change the world today, how can it be any better tomorrow?

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                        • #387
                          Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                          Vaccines better work. I got a flu shot -- my first in about ten years.
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                          • #388
                            Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                            I will never understand people who don't get flu shots. Barring a medical reason, there really isn't a good reason to not get one.
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                            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                            • #389
                              Re: Science: Vaccines Work, GMOs Are Safe, Everything is a Chemical

                              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                              I will never understand people who don't get flu shots. Barring a medical reason, there really isn't a good reason to not get one.
                              It's easy to understand. Laziness and fear of needles.
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                              • #390
                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                It's easy to understand. Laziness and fear of needles.
                                And you're an anti vaxer.
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