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  • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    As someone who hates radical changes, GOOD! Timed play is just a better technology. I understand tradition but f-ck it, I don't want the clock burning while Sergio Azzurri writhes on the pitch.
    As a referee: no, just no. Running it on a stadium clock is just terrible, it's done in high school and college here and it just sucks. In fact time wasting is usually worse because teams know that a) how much time is left and b) they can do things to waste time that a referee can do nothing about. Also, time running out in the middle of a team being on a breakaway sucks. The reality is referees just need to enforce the actual amount of stoppage time and FAs need to support referees doing this.
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    But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
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    • Re: World Soccer XXVII: The REAL Football

      Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
      As a referee: no, just no. Running it on a stadium clock is just terrible, it's done in high school and college here and it just sucks. In fact time wasting is usually worse because teams know that a) how much time is left and b) they can do things to waste time that a referee can do nothing about. Also, time running out in the middle of a team being on a breakaway sucks. The reality is referees just need to enforce the actual amount of stoppage time and FAs need to support referees doing this.
      I like the end there...you want to stop time wasting, make sure the ref actually adds back the proper amount of time...
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        Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
        I like the end there...you want to stop time wasting, make sure the ref actually adds back the proper amount of time...
        EDIT: I also hate that MNUFC stops the clock at 45 and 90 minutes...never understood that practice
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        • Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
          EDIT: I also hate that MNUFC stops the clock at 45 and 90 minutes...never understood that practice
          League rules.
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          Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
          But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
          Originally posted by Doyle Woody
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          • Re: World Soccer XXVII: The REAL Football

            Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
            League rules.
            well thats a stupid rule, why even announce stoppage time amount if you can't use in stadium clocks to show how much has elapsed? Everyone at home knows...
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            • Re: World Soccer XXVII: The REAL Football

              Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
              As a referee: no, just no. Running it on a stadium clock is just terrible, it's done in high school and college here and it just sucks. In fact time wasting is usually worse because teams know that a) how much time is left and b) they can do things to waste time that a referee can do nothing about. Also, time running out in the middle of a team being on a breakaway sucks. The reality is referees just need to enforce the actual amount of stoppage time and FAs need to support referees doing this.
              I don't understand any of these objections. It sucks for a football team to run out of time on a drive, too.

              It's not a referee issue, it's a game play issue. Frankly anything that takes more pressure off the officials is better in a sport where the player-referee interaction is often an unnecessary distraction.

              Anyway, the referee still has loads of power since it's their decision to blow the play dead.

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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I don't understand any of these objections. It sucks for a football team to run out of time on a drive, too.

                It's not a referee issue, it's a game play issue. Frankly anything that takes more pressure off the officials is better in a sport where the player-referee interaction is often an unnecessary distraction.

                Anyway, the referee still has loads of power since it's their decision to blow the play dead.

                Robot umps!
                Going to a rugby type rule where play continues until the ball is put out of play would alleviate some of the "clock winds down on a breakaway" situations. Not all, certainly, but some.

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                • Re: World Soccer XXVII: The REAL Football

                  Originally posted by unofan View Post
                  Going to a rugby type rule where play continues until the ball is put out of play would alleviate some of the "clock winds down on a breakaway" situations. Not all, certainly, but some.
                  You have to handle the situations with ahem "injuries" where the ball is still in play, but the referee can blow the whistle (stopping the clock) and had out cards for embellishment.

                  A rule like college lacrosse where you have to move the ball beyond half pitch within a certain amount of time after gaining possession would not hurt either.

                  Great soccer is amazing, but even mediocre soccer is awful. A few rule changes to punish cynical play would go a long way.
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                  • Re: World Soccer XXVII: The REAL Football

                    CFL gives you one last play as the clock hits 0:00.
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                    • Re: World Soccer XXVII: The REAL Football

                      Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                      We've got the Where's Waldo jersey on the bottom pic, which I like and think is rather fitting for Team USA and not really used elsewhere in the world.

                      I also liked the sash jerseys, and actually, looking back at all of them, the Bomb pop works for me now too. I don't really like our current jerseys.
                      I would be totally for making the 2010 WC jerseys as permanent home and aways with Where's Waldo as a third.

                      In Confed Cup action, looks like the Russians need a win or a tie with a Portugal loss to move on.

                      Group B could actually have a four way tie.
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                      • Re: World Soccer XXVII: The REAL Football

                        The clock rules don't need to be changed for any one reason named yet.

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                        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          I don't understand any of these objections. It sucks for a football team to run out of time on a drive, too.
                          Soccer isn't football or basketball where you can stop the clock and set up a play, sometimes that late run might be the best chance all game.

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          It's not a referee issue, it's a game play issue. Frankly anything that takes more pressure off the officials is better in a sport where the player-referee interaction is often an unnecessary distraction.
                          And now I can tell you have never come close to refereeing any meaningful match. Player-referee interaction is not only necessary, it's essential. FIFA level referees are masters at player management, some of the more notable referees like Collina are famous for it. And putting the referee in charge of a stadium adds more stress to a referee, let five seconds slip in a tight game? The whole thing will blow up. No thanks.

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Anyway, the referee still has loads of power since it's their decision to blow the play dead.
                          Somewhat. Yeah the referee has that power but start blowing the play dead for no good reason and you won't be refereeing very much longer. Like I said, referees can easily enforce a lot of stuff, they just don't because FIFA, the FAs, and the leagues don't back them up so the referees don't.
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                          Originally posted by UAFIceAngel
                          But let's be real...There are 40 some other teams and only two alaskan teams...the day one of us wins something big will be the day I transfer to UAA
                          Originally posted by Doyle Woody
                          Best sign by a visting Seawolf fan Friday went to a young man who held up a piece of white poster board that read: "YOU CAN'T SPELL FAILURE WITHOUT UAF."

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                          • Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
                            You're flying us all to UAE?
                            Have to be someplace with booze
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                              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                              Have to be someplace with booze
                              The UAE has booze. And snooker.

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