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  • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    I prefer what A.J. Cronin wrote in "Keys of the Kingdom" regarding salvation of an atheist.
    Just don't be Pascal's Wager, please.
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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      Just don't be Pascal's Wager, please.
      Good God, no. I'm at a rink watching HS games. I'll do it tomorrow.

      You'd like Fr. Chisholm. You'd also like Fr. Fermoyle from The Cardinal (the book. The movie is a piece of Otto Preminger trash)
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      • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

        OK. Here it is.

        A bit of background. Fr. Francis Chisholm is a Catholic missionary in Pai-Tan, China early in the 20th century. The plague has come to Pai-Tan and Francis' childhood friend, Dr. Willie Tulloch (an atheist) comes to the town as part of a relief effort.

        After getting a handle on the plague's spread, Willie catches it and dies. After Willie's death, Fr. Chisholm and Mother Mary Veronica have a discussion on whether Willie was saved. Here is the conclusion of Fr. Chisholm's thinking on the matter:

        "...There is one thing we most of us forget. Christ taught it. The Church teaches it...though you wouldn't think so to hear a great many of us today. No one in good faith can ever be lost. No one. Buddhists, Mohammedans, Taoists...the blackest cannibals who ever devoured a missionary... If they are sincere, according to their own lights, they will be saved. That is the splendid mercy of God. So why shouldn't He enjoy confronting a decent agnostic at the Judgement Seat with a twinkle in his eye: 'I'm here you see, in spite of all they brought you up to believe. Enter the Kingdom which you honestly denied.'..."
        And now, on the Eve of Christmas - the Last Gospel (John 1:14)
        "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him: and without Him was made nothing that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the Light shineth in darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

        There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. This man came for a witness, to give testimony of the Light, that all men might believe through Him. He was not the Light, but was to give testimony of the Light. That was the true Light, which enlighteneth every man that cometh into this world. He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not.

        He came unto His own, and His own received Him not. But as many as received Him, He gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in His name. Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (here all kneel)


        AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US,


        and we saw His glory, the glory as it were of the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
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        • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

          ...and the Word dwells among us as well.

          Merry Christmas all!
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          • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

            I posted this in What the Fark, but I'll post it here, too. Imagine going to your church's Christmas program and being handed the lyrics for Tupac's "Hail Mary," instead of the prayer.

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            • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

              More Christian Sharia.
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              • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                I'd forgotten this one.

                https://churchpop.com/2015/12/04/cat...-the-simpsons/
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                • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                  Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  So should we expect to hear about Trump's secular 'sharia'? Or is the low road reserved for Christianity?
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                  • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                    So should we expect to hear about Trump's secular 'sharia'? Or is the low road reserved for Christianity?
                    You could, but you'd look pretty silly given we live in a secular nation.
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                    • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                      Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                      You could, but you'd look pretty silly given we live in a secular nation.
                      The point is not about secular (i.e., I could have said nonbeliever). The point is about the label sharia. Extremists label - communist, socialist, sharia - examples of individual behavior to continuously misrepresent whole groups. Replace Christian with black or Jew and posters doing this would be thrown off the boards.

                      Atheism has nothing to do with bigotry. But as with Christians, atheists can be bigots.
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                      • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                        Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                        The point is not about secular (i.e., I could have said nonbeliever). The point is about the label sharia. Extremists label - communist, socialist, sharia - examples of individual behavior to continuously misrepresent whole groups. Replace Christian with black or Jew and posters doing this would be thrown off the boards.

                        Atheism has nothing to do with bigotry. But as with Christians, atheists can be bigots.
                        Sharia means "the way" or "the path," and is the manner in which a Muslim is supposed to conduct him/herself according to the Quran, which could also be a called "the Word of God."

                        Calling something Christian Sharia when people want to apply the Bible to laws used to conduct secular life might seem inflammatory, but it's still fairly accurate.
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                        • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                          Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                          The point is not about secular (i.e., I could have said nonbeliever). The point is about the label sharia. Extremists label - communist, socialist, sharia - examples of individual behavior to continuously misrepresent whole groups. Replace Christian with black or Jew and posters doing this would be thrown off the boards.

                          Atheism has nothing to do with bigotry. But as with Christians, atheists can be bigots.
                          Man you have a fixation on atheists. I am at a loss for why you need to define them so much
                          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                          Sharia means "the way" or "the path," and is the manner in which a Muslim is supposed to conduct him/herself according to the Quran, which could also be a called "the Word of God."

                          Calling something Christian Sharia when people want to apply the Bible to laws used to conduct secular life might seem inflammatory, but it's still fairly accurate.
                          In the Bible there is also "The Way" which I am sure was translated out of whatever language it was written in first. Not sure but if you have a Bible translated in that language it is possible that would be the wording used for "The Way"

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                          • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                            Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                            Sharia means "the way" or "the path," and is the manner in which a Muslim is supposed to conduct him/herself according to the Quran, which could also be a called "the Word of God."

                            Calling something Christian Sharia when people want to apply the Bible to laws used to conduct secular life might seem inflammatory, but it's still fairly accurate.
                            A proposal by a noted right winger on a single issue is stretched by label to be a pervasive religious rule of law 'prescribing both religious and secular duties with retributive penalties'. While inflammatory, that's not close to accurate.
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                            • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                              Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                              A proposal by a noted right winger on a single issue is stretched by label to be a pervasive religious rule of law 'prescribing both religious and secular duties with retributive penalties'. While inflammatory, that's not close to accurate.
                              A person wanted to apply the Bible to secular life. That person want to make the Christian religious text "the way" of life. Again, the use of Sharia may be inflammatory due to it being the Arab term for "the way," but it's hardly inaccurate.

                              You just don't like it because others are calling out this Christian zealotry for the POS proposal that it is, making apt analogies to a religion that people of your faith like to call "a cult." Get over it.
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                              • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                                Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                                The point is not about secular (i.e., I could have said nonbeliever). The point is about the label sharia. Extremists label - communist, socialist, sharia - examples of individual behavior to continuously misrepresent whole groups. Replace Christian with black or Jew and posters doing this would be thrown off the boards.

                                Atheism has nothing to do with bigotry. But as with Christians, atheists can be bigots.
                                I was actually just being a pis-sant. I do that sometimes. I'm sorry.
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