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    Nice.
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    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      But He loves you...

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      • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

        The faithful, and others, come together in the gathering space, lit by soft lights powered by renewable resources. Any offensive imagery should be removed. Okay, let’s face it, the walls should be bare, but unobtrusive lest those offended by bare walls get stressed out.

        Okay, maybe we should do this in a park somewhere. But not a park named after a civil war general, or slave owner, or heteronormative cisgender patriarchial oppressor.

        Okay, we’re gathering in Judy’s apartment complex community room.

        Softly lit soy candles are held aloft in the cardinal directions by the Sisters Servant of Jesus the Revolutionary, newly back from their bus tour. Ursapupifers hand out stuffed bears (made by undocumented immigrants being paid a just wage under old-growth redwoods and using all natural fabrics). The gathered community can begin softly signing any hymn from the Cure’s 1989 album “Disintegration.”

        Leader of Prayer: I apologize for being the leader, and acknowledge the leadership in all of you.

        Community: We affirm your discomfort at leadership, and beg the pardon of all those offended by hierarchy.

        Leader of Prayer pinning a safety pin on his/her sweater vest: I proclaim this to be a safe space and invite you all to safety and trust. They all ensafetypin themselves.

        Commissioned Agitator: O God, or whoever, or whatever: deign in your mercy to hear the cries of your people – wounded, hurt, destroyed, demolish, brought down low, despair, crying, angered, irritated, annoyed, vexed, bothered, mildly displeased, anguished, oppressed, confused, down trodden, misgendered, mispronounced, miffed, freaking out – hear our cries and our unreasonable demands. Make it stop. May the shade-grown vanilla soy latte of your countenance pour forth and scald the mean people that have done this to us, while bringing us half-caffeinated and gluten-free enjoyment.

        Community: Amen (and Awomen, and Anon-binarygendered).

        Reader: A reading from the Apocalypse according to van Jones

        I’m so mad. I think this should give us a lot of empathy for the kids in Syria and other wartorn countries who want to get away from crazy and to come here. The fact that someone said mean things was able to become president traumatized a whole generation of children. No building got blown up next to them. They didn’t see their dad get torn apart in a car bomb. Just one mean person saying mean things, being put in a position of power, traumatized half a generation of kids.”

        Community: Yes, we are terrified. You shall know us by the browning of our pants on that sad day. Ooooo, people who disagree with us are scary.

        A moment of silence as teddy bears are hugged. Appropriate touches may be given, after proof of signed consent is provided.

        Commissioned Agitator: Will the genderless professor of multicultural, multiethnic, multilateral, multisexed, multidimensional transnuminous studies come forward for the inexhaustible litany of pronouns.

        The community sits. This is gonna take… awhile.

        Leader of Prayer: Let us now share in the community cake, which was baked by a conservative Christian baker (the crowd shudders and moans in unison) who made this celebratory cake in protest under fear of being shut down and sued (crowd lets out a muffled, hooray!).

        Commissioned Agitator: Father… Mister… Othered Roy Bourgeois will now unfurl an inexplicable banner demonstrating the offense we feel at how other people having been poopy-heads. Will the assigned assistant unfurlers come forward.

        They unfurl. Then refurl.

        Leader of Prayer: Please stand for our litany of grievances. Your response is, “I just can’t even.”

        L: Dude, we so thought we had this election in the bag.
        C: I just can’t even.

        L: I mean, he’s gonna be the President. That’s so freaking bizarre.
        C: I just can’t even.

        L: I hear he’s already opening concentration camps for minorities and that he bathes daily in the blood of bludgeoned baby seals.
        C: I just can’t even.

        L: We might have to get jobs!
        C: I just can’t even.

        L: Dude, I can’t afford to pay for my girlfriend’s birth control, let along her girlfriend’s gender reassignment surgery!
        C: I just can’t even.

        L: I know that pot’s been legalized just about everywhere, but is there really enough weed to get us through the next four years?
        C: I just can’t even.

        L: And what if he’s elected and is president for eight years?
        C: I JUST CAN’T EVEN.

        Commissioned Agitator: Let the biodegradable tissues be handed out.

        Leader of Prayer: Please turn and affirm one another in our okayness. You may exit through the back doors, or the windows, or into the next dimension through a time-space portal. Or stay here. I really have no power to force you to do anything.

        Commissioned Agitator: Let the community gather again tomorrow night for more prayer and healing, except those who have jobs.

        Community: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. See you tomorrow!


        Did I mention I like satire?
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          OK, I laughed...a little bit

          I wholeheartedly apple-ogize for that.

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          • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            Did I mention I like satire?
            Did I mention conservatives can't do humor.*

            Also, the album you're looking for is The Head on the Door.


            * There is an exception and if you haven't read it you should. I think you will see the difference.
            Last edited by Kepler; 11-15-2016, 09:30 PM.
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            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              Did I mention conservatives can't do humor.*

              Also, the album you're looking for is The Head on the Door.


              * There is an exception and if you haven't read it you should. I think you will see the difference.
              I have it as an ebook. Figures you would like a book with a commie mayor!
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              ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
              - Benjamin Franklin

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              I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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              • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                Originally posted by joecct View Post
                I have it as an ebook. Figures you would like a book with a commie mayor!
                I haven't read the sequels, have you?

                Does your ebook have the original illustrations? They're wonderful.

                I grew up on that book. It's one of my favorites.

                Intellectual Catholic upbringing has its perks.
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                • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                  I haven't read the sequels, have you?

                  Does your ebook have the original illustrations? They're wonderful.

                  I grew up on that book. It's one of my favorites.

                  Intellectual Catholic upbringing has its perks.
                  I think project Guttenberg has them. Which means text only.

                  You know there's a movie?
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                  - Benjamin Franklin

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                  • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    I think project Guttenberg has them. Which means text only.

                    You know there's a movie?
                    I saw that when I was looking for the picture. No thanks. I want my childhood images of the characters to remain pristine. Particularly my Christ. (a.k.a., Robin Wright #notmybuttercup)
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                    • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                      George Weigel has a good sense of the pulse of Catholic Church in the USA.

                      https://www.firstthings.com/article/...-bernardin-era
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                      - Benjamin Franklin

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                      I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                      • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        George Weigel has a good sense of the pulse of Catholic Church in the USA.

                        https://www.firstthings.com/article/...-bernardin-era
                        Interesting piece about Catholic internal politics. Kind of goes back to what I was saying yesterday - in a pre-V2 world, this so-called "faithful dissent" was a foreign concept. The Church is not a democracy, and you shouldn't get to pick and choose what you like, while ignoring the rest (even though many Catholics do exactly that). Similarly, priests and bishops shouldn't get to pick and choose enforcement of Church teachings. The Catechism exists for a reason.

                        That's fine. Just don't expect it to be a sustainable business model in parts of the world that are less tribal, and have become educated enough to see beyond primitive definitions of good vs. evil.

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                          Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                          Interesting piece about Catholic internal politics. Kind of goes back to what I was saying yesterday - in a pre-V2 world, this so-called "faithful dissent" was a foreign concept. The Church is not a democracy, and you shouldn't get to pick and choose what you like, while ignoring the rest (even though many Catholics do exactly that). Similarly, priests and bishops shouldn't get to pick and choose enforcement of Church teachings. The Catechism exists for a reason.

                          That's fine. Just don't expect it to be a sustainable business model in parts of the world that are less tribal, and have become educated enough to see beyond primitive definitions of good vs. evil.
                          Pretty sure that people have been picking and choosing throughout the entire history of the Church. It isn't (and wasn't meant to be IMHO) a static entity. If we went back to what people wanted when they formulated the first Catechisms all sorts of things would be very different and intolerable. In the end it is humans trying to guess what God wants through the filter of what they want God to want.

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                          • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            George Weigel has a good sense of the pulse of Catholic Church in the USA.

                            https://www.firstthings.com/article/...-bernardin-era
                            Perhaps, but he seems hardly a disinterested party.
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                              Originally posted by leswp1 View Post
                              In the end it is humans trying to guess what God wants through the filter of what they want God to want.
                              This is the most accurate definition of theology ever written.
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                              • So, the perpetual whining about the War on Christmas has begun. And it's mostly done by old Fundies that are stuck in 1955.

                                Meanwhile, my younger friends? They're the ones who are out there feeding the hungry, visiting the sick and those in prison, clothing the naked, taking in the homeless and strays. You know, actually keeping Christ in Christmas.
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