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  • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    My parents weren't crazy about me quitting Catholicism when I was about 19, but they quickly came around. However, it helps that they are moderates to begin with.
    My parents always said they sent me to CCD and took me to church not to make me a Catholic but so that I could make an informed decision. They weren't thrilled that I was an atheist but they were also intelligent enough believers to realize that going through the motions without belief is no improvement over being a sincere non-believer, so they let it drop without much of a problem. My father, as a convert, always felt that life without God was a diminution, and an emptiness, but he was civil about it and we made our peace far more easily than my older brother who retained spiritual instincts but was vocally anti-Catholic. It is interesting that my parents found it easier to accept me, who left completely, than my brother, who simply moved on to other faiths. I suspect I was easier to dismiss as merely wrongheaded while he was more threatening.

    My parents were far more concerned with issues of lifestyle and "sinfulness." For example, none of the kids was permitted to share a bedroom with an unmarried partner when we were at my parents' house, even when we were in our forties. It was very much the "my roof, my rules" attitude. But at the same time my parents were always scrupulously polite with those partners and accepted their kids as family.

    Basically, they were smart and that made them tolerant. They weren't moderate -- they were indeed hard core orthodox in their faith and extremely unaccepting of what they felt was "backsliding." But they came at religion as much from the head as the groin, and that made them able to empathize with those who had come to other conclusions. I mean, they knew we were all going to hell, but they weren't insistent on throwing it in our faces.
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    • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

      Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
      ranting and raving how marathon running was a sin
      Beg pardon? I'm not familiar with that part of the scriptures.
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      • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Beg pardon? I'm not familiar with that part of the scriptures.
        I'm willing to make the bet that it's one of two things: placing personal glory over God, or some play on false idolatry.
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        • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

          Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
          I'm willing to make the bet that it's one of two things: placing personal glory over God, or some play on false idolatry.
          So I made a big mistake and googled it. The best I can say for the result is it didn't stray to porn.

          Evidently there are biblical passages which use running a race as a metaphor. Some of the more, ahem, imaginative pastors have decided that if you run an actual race you are reifying god's metaphorical language and endangering your immortal soul by Missing The Point. Which would be fine except those same pastors tend to be the ones who insist on dogmatic literalist readings of other passages which might themselves have been metaphorical.
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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            So I made a big mistake and googled it. The best I can say for the result is it didn't stray to porn.

            Evidently there are biblical passages which use running a race as a metaphor. Some of the more, ahem, imaginative pastors have decided that if you run an actual race you are reifying god's metaphorical language and endangering your immortal soul by Missing The Point. Which would be fine except those same pastors tend to be the ones who insist on dogmatic literalist readings of other passages which might themselves have been metaphorical.
            Probably the most famous is 2 Timothy 4:7: "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith."

            Being a Clarkson grad, we, of course, find great appeal in 2 Timothy 2:15 - "Carefully study to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth."
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            • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

              Jesus trolls.
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              • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                At my Catholic High School running a race was only a sin if you didn't win!
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                • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  I'm willing to make the bet that it's one of two things: placing personal glory over God, or some play on false idolatry.
                  Wasn't even that. Dad was particularly angry that he was going to miss wine and cracker time at church since he usually comes and supports.
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                  • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                    Originally posted by Wisko McBadgerton View Post
                    At my Catholic High School running a race was only a sin if you didn't win!
                    I'm sure the brothers had their own punishments for the boys bringing up the rear.
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                    • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      I'm sure the brothers had their own punishments for the boys bringing up the rear.
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                      • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                        Originally posted by ShirtlessBob View Post
                        Wasn't even that. Dad was particularly angry that he was going to miss wine and cracker time at church since he usually comes and supports.
                        So, he was concerned with the true saving graces of his faith.
                        "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                        "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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                        • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                          Originally posted by joecct View Post
                          Apb. Malloy?
                          Kind of.
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                          • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                            Reverse this and you'd get "religion of peace" snark.
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                            • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

                              Catholic infighting

                              http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issu...ic-infighting/
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                              • Re: Religion Thread: That's Me In the Corner...

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