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  • #46
    Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

    RPI is in the same boat as the other 30 some teams, they do not attract the U18 developement girls because Frosty and Johnson gobble them all up. Other than the top few girls most of them are happy just being a third or fourth liners on these powerhouse teams. These part time third or fourth liners could be superstars on most clubs and would benefit the rest of the 30 some teams that are always chasing the big 3

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    • #47
      Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

      Originally posted by brokentwig View Post
      RPI is in the same boat as the other 30 some teams, they do not attract the U18 developement girls because Frosty and Johnson gobble them all up. Other than the top few girls most of them are happy just being a third or fourth liners on these powerhouse teams. These part time third or fourth liners could be superstars on most clubs and would benefit the rest of the 30 some teams that are always chasing the big 3
      Well if you play 3rd line at Wisconsin you get plenty of playing time and are certainly not a "part time" player. My wife and I have been attending Badger Women's Hockey games for the last 12 years or so and Coach Johnson rolls his top 3 lines for most of each game. Even the 4rth liners get in most games.

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      • #48
        Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

        Originally posted by brokentwig View Post
        RPI is in the same boat as the other 30 some teams, they do not attract the U18 developement girls because Frosty and Johnson gobble them all up. Other than the top few girls most of them are happy just being a third or fourth liners on these powerhouse teams. These part time third or fourth liners could be superstars on most clubs and would benefit the rest of the 30 some teams that are always chasing the big 3
        Gophers 3rd line forwards always play regular shifts as well. 5 and 6 'D' usually play full regular shifts although occasionally their shifts are shortened or cut. 4th liners will play but not usually in a tie game

        Not saying there isn't something to your general point, however

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        • #49
          Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

          Originally posted by brokentwig View Post
          RPI is in the same boat as the other 30 some teams, they do not attract the U18 developement girls because Frosty and Johnson gobble them all up. Other than the top few girls most of them are happy just being a third or fourth liners on these powerhouse teams. These part time third or fourth liners could be superstars on most clubs and would benefit the rest of the 30 some teams that are always chasing the big 3
          one just left for BU, another did a couple years ago, and another a couple years before that (to Bemidji)

          so over the next 30 years, there is a good chance you'll be getting one

          In men's hockey, since everyone is chasing the dream of a big NHL contract, it makes sense to go to a lesser known school than be a 3rd or 4th liner on a top contending team, the opportunity to be on a scoring line and the PP could be life changing

          but in women's hockey going to a big school like MN or WI means you have the choice of numerous educational opportunities that aren't available at a smaller school
          in addition what good would saying you were the leading scorer at a job interview do you? telling them you were a member of a national champion team tells them all they need to know, organizations want team players with a history of success

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          • #50
            Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

            Originally posted by pokechecker View Post
            one just left for BU, another did a couple years ago, and another a couple years before that (to Bemidji)

            so over the next 30 years, there is a good chance you'll be getting one

            In men's hockey, since everyone is chasing the dream of a big NHL contract, it makes sense to go to a lesser known school than be a 3rd or 4th liner on a top contending team, the opportunity to be on a scoring line and the PP could be life changing

            but in women's hockey going to a big school like MN or WI means you have the choice of numerous educational opportunities that aren't available at a smaller school
            in addition what good would saying you were the leading scorer at a job interview do you? telling them you were a member of a national champion team tells them all they need to know, organizations want team players with a history of success
            Agreed.. I will also add that even though women's hockey is an Olympic sport and there is a 4 team professional league (NWHL), the pinnacle for any aspiring female hockey player is still NCAA D-1 hockey. And if said player is good enough to be a USA U-18 or Canadian U-18 player then it is very likely she will be recruited by one of the powerhouse WCHA teams.. In my opinion this is easily the best conference in the country with UM and UW always being in the race for the National Championship.. Why wouldn't a player want to go to either one of those schools?

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            • #51
              Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

              https://***********/RPI_WHockey/stat...846464?lang=en

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              • #52
                Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

                The roster has been posted. http://www.rpiathletics.com/roster.a...302&path=whock
                Last edited by Ralph Baer; 08-28-2016, 04:57 PM.
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                • #53
                  Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

                  Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                  I was hoping to see a walk-on goalie. Always a bit risky for a hockey team to go into a season with only 2 keepers, but on the other hand it is hard to justify using 3 scholarships.

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                  • #54
                    Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

                    Originally posted by hab View Post
                    I was hoping to see a walk-on goalie. Always a bit risky for a hockey team to go into a season with only 2 keepers, but on the other hand it is hard to justify using 3 scholarships.
                    The roster has been removed, as has the men's. There still could be a third goalie. There wasn't one on the men's roster either.
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                    • #55
                      Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

                      Originally posted by hab View Post
                      I was hoping to see a walk-on goalie. Always a bit risky for a hockey team to go into a season with only 2 keepers, but on the other hand it is hard to justify using 3 scholarships.
                      Respectfully disagree on the three scholarships. A D1 team HAS to have three goalies - a starter (usually Junior/Senior), a future starter (usually Freshman/Sophomore), and a second backup (usually a previous future starter who didn't quite make it). This is the most important position on ANY hockey team and skimping on scholarships in this position is a poor, poor choice. Plus RPI has a full allotment, so why wouldn't they use 3 on goalies? They can always get 3 or 4 position recruited walk-ons ....

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                      • #56
                        Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

                        Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                        The roster has been removed, as has the men's. There still could be a third goalie. There wasn't one on the men's roster either.
                        It's back http://www.rpiathletics.com/roster.aspx?path=whock.
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                        • #57
                          Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

                          Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View Post
                          Respectfully disagree on the three scholarships. A D1 team HAS to have three goalies - a starter (usually Junior/Senior), a future starter (usually Freshman/Sophomore), and a second backup (usually a previous future starter who didn't quite make it). This is the most important position on ANY hockey team and skimping on scholarships in this position is a poor, poor choice. Plus RPI has a full allotment, so why wouldn't they use 3 on goalies? They can always get 3 or 4 position recruited walk-ons ....
                          The RPI men's team also almost always uses a walk-on as its third goalie. It is a function of the fact that many players just are not attracted to technical majors -- both men and women -- and more full scholarships have to be awarded. There is the additional fact, when compared to public colleges, that tuition is significantly more expensive and a partial athletic scholarship is not as attractive.

                          I would be quite surprised if any school uses three full athletic scholarships on goalies, leaving only 15 for skaters. Three partials, or two partials and a full, I can see.
                          Last edited by Ralph Baer; 08-29-2016, 11:48 AM.
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                          • #58
                            Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

                            Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
                            The RPI men's team also almost always uses a walk-on as its third goalie. It is a function of the fact that many players just are not attracted to technical majors -- both men and women -- and more full scholarships have to be awarded. There is the additional fact, when compared to public colleges, that tuition is significantly more expensive and a partial athletic scholarship is not as attractive.

                            I would be quite surprised if any school uses three full athletic scholarships on goalies, leaving only 15 for skaters. Three partials, or two partials and a full, I can see.
                            I think that the 'walk-on' #3 goalie, or the half-scholarship #3 goalie often becomes one of most valued players on the team...valued by teammates and valued by fans. There is a recognition that this person puts in the same kind of work day after day as the scholarship players who get the lion's share of ice time, and is always prepared to put on the pads when needed. Certainly seems that Sara Till was that kind of athlete over the last 4 years and was clearly a key part of the team. Big challenge to find a replacement.

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                            • #59
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                              • #60
                                Re: RPI Engineers 2016-2017: 10 Years on

                                Brandon Pirri: Turk would give it to Jagr. That's awesome! Jagr's untouchable. And he would give it to Jagr.

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