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    Re: Big Ten > NCHC

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    If we put a poll up on GPL he'd win.
    Gopher it.

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    Gopher it.

    Tippsy - just like Mel would never leave MTU right? You're cute.
    Michigan is a clear upgrade from Michigan Tech. Tech was in what is basically a one-bid conference. They had one at-large bid in his time there.
    St Cloud is a better hockey program than the U of M right now. We have won the last 4 games against the Gophers and are probably going to make it 6 in a row next month. The NCHC is a far superior conference to the B1G. Motzko has a loaded team that only has 3 seniors. And lastly, I am pretty sure Motzko said this would be his last job when asked about it a year or two ago on his weekly radio show.
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    Pretty sure this post, made on January 3, 2016, when UNO was 14-3-1 and #2 in the pairwise, will go down in USCHO lore as The Curse of Tipsy McStagger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
    Michigan is a clear upgrade from Michigan Tech. Tech was in what is basically a one-bid conference. They had one at-large bid in his time there.
    St Cloud is a better hockey program than the U of M right now. We have won the last 4 games against the Gophers and are probably going to make it 6 in a row next month. The NCHC is a far superior conference to the B1G. Motzko has a loaded team that only has 3 seniors. And lastly, I am pretty sure Motzko said this would be his last job when asked about it a year or two ago on his weekly radio show.
    Money talks. Noticed you avoided that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
    Michigan is a clear upgrade from Michigan Tech. Tech was in what is basically a one-bid conference. They had one at-large bid in his time there.
    St Cloud is a better hockey program than the U of M right now. We have won the last 4 games against the Gophers and are probably going to make it 6 in a row next month. The NCHC is a far superior conference to the B1G. Motzko has a loaded team that only has 3 seniors. And lastly, I am pretty sure Motzko said this would be his last job when asked about it a year or two ago on his weekly radio show.
    Motzko is going nowhere. Heís got a good thing going at St Cloud. This is there best team in my opinion they have ever had. This could be the year. If not UND Iíll be pulling for them.

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    I would never say never on a Motzko move to Minnesota, but I think the situation with him and Pearson is a little bit different.

    When Pearson left Michigan everyone was already talking about Red retiring and Pearson returning as the heir apparent. In many ways it is kind of like the Potulny situation.

    Motzko has been at SCSU for more than 10 years now and has a pretty good thing going. Obviously the money might be better at Minnesota, but he's in a pretty low pressure position compared to Lucia. Pearson was at Michigan for 20+(?) years before briefly going to Tech? Motzko was at Minnesota for four seasons.

    The other thing is Motzko has to be only a couple of years younger than Lucia, doesn't he? It's kind of the same problem Guentzel has. I don't see Minnesota getting rid of Lucia and replacing him with someone who is 2-3 years younger. The trend in coaching today, in hockey and elsewhere, seems to be to go younger, to find coaches who "relate" to today's players and social media and all of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonin21 View Post
    Money talks. Noticed you avoided that.
    Did that need to be mentioned? That is pretty much all the U has to offer.
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    Pretty sure this post, made on January 3, 2016, when UNO was 14-3-1 and #2 in the pairwise, will go down in USCHO lore as The Curse of Tipsy McStagger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    I would never say never on a Motzko move to Minnesota, but I think the situation with him and Pearson is a little bit different.

    When Pearson left Michigan everyone was already talking about Red retiring and Pearson returning as the heir apparent. In many ways it is kind of like the Potulny situation.

    Motzko has been at SCSU for more than 10 years now and has a pretty good thing going. Obviously the money might be better at Minnesota, but he's in a pretty low pressure position compared to Lucia. Pearson was at Michigan for 20+(?) years before briefly going to Tech? Motzko was at Minnesota for four seasons.

    The other thing is Motzko has to be only a couple of years younger than Lucia, doesn't he? It's kind of the same problem Guentzel has. I don't see Minnesota getting rid of Lucia and replacing him with someone who is 2-3 years younger. The trend in coaching today, in hockey and elsewhere, seems to be to go younger, to find coaches who "relate" to today's players and social media and all of that.
    I would also add that Motzko and Lucia are friends. I believe Bob said their families vacation up north together in the summer. So I am sure that if he hasn't already, Lucia would tell Bob about whatever obstacles to success there are at the U of M. And like Hovey said, if Lucia's track record was good enough to get him fired, is that the kind of job Motzko wants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    I would never say never on a Motzko move to Minnesota, but I think the situation with him and Pearson is a little bit different.

    When Pearson left Michigan everyone was already talking about Red retiring and Pearson returning as the heir apparent. In many ways it is kind of like the Potulny situation.

    Motzko has been at SCSU for more than 10 years now and has a pretty good thing going. Obviously the money might be better at Minnesota, but he's in a pretty low pressure position compared to Lucia. Pearson was at Michigan for 20+(?) years before briefly going to Tech? Motzko was at Minnesota for four seasons.

    The other thing is Motzko has to be only a couple of years younger than Lucia, doesn't he? It's kind of the same problem Guentzel has. I don't see Minnesota getting rid of Lucia and replacing him with someone who is 2-3 years younger. The trend in coaching today, in hockey and elsewhere, seems to be to go younger, to find coaches who "relate" to today's players and social media and all of that.
    Motzko also had a stint with the Gophers during their championship years IIRC.
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    Motzko also had a stint with the Gophers during their championship years IIRC.
    Yep, those were the four years I was referring to.

    Obviously those would be fond memories for Motzko, but it's not like he has deep ties to the U. Not an alum. Assistant for four seasons, and for a friend who now may be fired?

    Not many reasons to make that move. Basically, money and the opportunity to coach at one of the 5-6 "name" college hockey programs. I doubt that's enough.
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    The U also has better facilities, likely more recruiting resources, more money for assistants, and probably quite a bit more than any other school in the state.

    Thereís also the M on the front. Even though SCSU is having an incredible run, Minnesota is still the premier school in the state. Better education, better campus, and exposure.

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    The U also has better facilities, likely more recruiting resources, more money for assistants, and probably quite a bit more than any other school in the state.
    And what has the "better facilities, likely more recruiting resources, more money for assistants" produced lately? Motzko has recruited 1st round picks in each of the last two drafts. The recruits he gets keep getting better as the years go by, in my opinion.

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    There’s also the M on the front. Even though SCSU is having an incredible run, Minnesota is still the premier school in the state. Better education, better campus, and exposure.
    You can't still believe this. This isn't the 1990s. Kids don't care about the M on the front. They had to fold the BTHC tournament because they couldn't even get more than like 2,000 people to Xcel to make it worth their while. And I would bet money that St. Cloud has more games on TV this year than the Gophers do. So your exposure argument is absurd. Duluth has won a title more recently than the Gophers, and made it to another title game more recently than the Gophers. Your only claim to being the premier school in the state is enrollment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
    And I would bet money that St. Cloud has more games on TV this year than the Gophers do. So your exposure argument is absurd.

    Your only claim to being the premier school in the state is enrollment.
    You would lose the money.

    Also, the premier education of the five schools. Get your degree, set yourself free, St. Cloud State University!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
    And what has the "better facilities, likely more recruiting resources, more money for assistants" produced lately? Motzko has recruited 1st round picks in each of the last two drafts. The recruits he gets keep getting better as the years go by, in my opinion.


    You can't still believe this. This isn't the 1990s. Kids don't care about the M on the front. They had to fold the BTHC tournament because they couldn't even get more than like 2,000 people to Xcel to make it worth their while. And I would bet money that St. Cloud has more games on TV this year than the Gophers do. So your exposure argument is absurd. Duluth has won a title more recently than the Gophers, and made it to another title game more recently than the Gophers. Your only claim to being the premier school in the state is enrollment.
    Which is why Middlestadt went to SCS...wait, he didn't.

    Also, let me know when your team is regularly broadcast on a network that reaches 90 million TVs. Weird how that works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Which is why Middlestadt went to SCS...wait, he didn't.

    Also, let me know when your team is regularly broadcast on a network that reaches 90 million TVs. Weird how that works.
    Which is why Poehling and Tufte went to the U...wait, they didn't.

    Weird how what works? How when you are on a network that "reaches 90 million TVs", your conference becomes a laughingstock and a new team comes in and completely mops the floor with the other teams in their first year? Or how the other in-state teams start using your team as a punching bag? Enjoy, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
    Which is why Poehling and Tufte went to the U...wait, they didn't.

    Weird how what works? How when you are on a network that "reaches 90 million TVs", your conference becomes a laughingstock and a new team comes in and completely mops the floor with the other teams in their first year? Or how the other in-state teams start using your team as a punching bag? Enjoy, I guess.
    Well done. The arrogance of gopher fans never ceases to amaze me. They sure pack the Mooch though

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    But how come you bet money that SCSU is on TV more and then back down on it? Gophers will always be on TV more than SCSU (though I predict it'll decline for all teams in college hockey).

    Why would Motzko care how the Gophers are playing right now? I'm sure he has confidence he could turn the program around given the resources he'd have (including many he doesn't have at Jan Brady State).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonin21 View Post
    But how come you bet money that SCSU is on TV more and then back down on it? Gophers will always be on TV more than SCSU (though I predict it'll decline for all teams in college hockey).

    Why would Motzko care how the Gophers are playing right now? I'm sure he has confidence he could turn the program around given the resources he'd have (including many he doesn't have at Jan Brady State).
    Not backing down. I was on my phone on the bus ride home so I couldn't check the schedules. You may be right, the U may be on more than St. Cloud this year. I am just going off my experience which is obviously biased. I know SCSU is on FSN 11 times this year. I also know BTN doesn't show much hockey until football season is over and then they have to compete with basketball and other teams in their conference. Also, from Gopher fans whining about how they couldn't watch the game vs UND

    Why would Motzko care how the Gophers are playing now? Maybe because he respects Lucia and doesn't think he is a clueless bozo who is doing everything wrong.

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    I would love to know the specific resource advantages the U of M has over SCSU, given that hockey is SCSU's only revenue generating sport.

    I would also love to know why, if the B1G teams all have such huge resource advantages, the only opponents they can regularly beat are in Atlantic Hockey?

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    I would love to know the specific resource advantages the U of M has over SCSU, given that hockey is SCSU's only revenue generating sport.

    I would also love to know why, if the B1G teams all have such huge resource advantages, the only opponents they can regularly beat are in Atlantic Hockey?
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