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  • Re: Cars: 2015

    Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Porsche pretty much comes into work in the morning, sees the sun is out, and goes "Hey, the 'Ring is 20 minutes away, let's go troll the world."
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      I know they are/were unsafe as heck, but taking a fast car on old Spa and/or old Monza would be a trip of a lifetime.
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      • Re: Cars: 2015

        You let race teams do whatever they want and records will be broken

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        • Re: Cars: 2015

          Originally posted by walrus View Post
          You let race teams do whatever they want and records will be broken

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          I have no problem with an "unlimited" record. There's a reason there are different leaderboards. The open or unlimited class should be the king record though. It's about the fastest ever, bottom line. (Or top, I suppose, in this case.)
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          • Re: Cars: 2015

            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
            I have no problem with an "unlimited" record. There's a reason there are different leaderboards. The open or unlimited class should be the king record though. It's about the fastest ever, bottom line. (Or top, I suppose, in this case.)
            The two problems with "unlimited" classes are safety and escalating costs. Eventually teams spend themselves into oblivion trying to keep up with each other. That's why the privateer classes at Le Mans have cost limits.

            Look up Group B rallies some time. Those races were mayhem.
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            • Re: Cars: 2015

              Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
              The two problems with "unlimited" classes are safety and escalating costs. Eventually teams spend themselves into oblivion trying to keep up with each other. That's why the privateer classes at Le Mans have cost limits.

              Look up Group B rallies some time. Those races were mayhem.
              I get that. Safety should take priority. We can't have a cruise missile going around the track (we're dam close already). I don't care about them spending money into oblivion. Adult choices and whatnot.

              But at some point someone is going to die again at that track trying to break 5 minutes and eventually 4 minutes. I don't know enough to set a limit but that's kind of the risk in an unlimited category.
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              • Re: Cars: 2015

                Is the ring a closed course? If not, does it get closed/reserved for days when speed tests take place?

                If it's a closed course, the people going in know the stakes. On their own heads be it.
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                • Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  Is the ring a closed course? If not, does it get closed/reserved for days when speed tests take place?
                  It's a public toll road (one way traffic), but yes, it gets closed during race events.

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                  • Re: Cars: 2015

                    Did test drives today. Drove a Mazda 3 Touring, Subaru Impreza Sport, and Nissan Altima S, and then stopped because I couldn't deal with another car dealer. Didn't bother with Hyundai, Honda or Toyota, although they were on my list. The Nissan is at a "no haggle" dealership, but that's about the only thing it has over the other 2. Deciding between the Impreza and the Mazda. Mazda had more pickup, but no 4WD (but I've never had it, and I'm still alive). Impreza is about $4,000 more (Mazda has a $2,000 discount right now), and I don't see much different besides that.

                    Anyone have experience with either of these?
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                    • Re: Cars: 2015

                      Originally posted by jen View Post
                      Anyone have experience with either of these?
                      My daughter has a 17 Imprezza Sport and loves it. She's had it for a little over 1-1/2 yrs and put almost 40000 miles on it and its been absolutely trouble free. There was a recall on the entertainment system that required a software upgrade but nothing else. And she loves it in the snow!
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                      • Re: Cars: 2015

                        Originally posted by jen View Post
                        Did test drives today. Drove a Mazda 3 Touring, Subaru Impreza Sport, and Nissan Altima S, and then stopped because I couldn't deal with another car dealer. Didn't bother with Hyundai, Honda or Toyota, although they were on my list. The Nissan is at a "no haggle" dealership, but that's about the only thing it has over the other 2. Deciding between the Impreza and the Mazda. Mazda had more pickup, but no 4WD (but I've never had it, and I'm still alive). Impreza is about $4,000 more, and I don't see much different besides that.

                        Anyone have experience with either of these?
                        My friend has a Mazda 3 Sport, which as I understand it is just a step down from the Mazda 3 Touring. He loves it. I've ridden in it quite a few times, and driven it just once, and found it to be a very decent car to ride around in short distances. It seemed to be fun to drive, although I only drove it for about twenty minutes. I probably wouldn't be keen on riding in it for long distances. My personal preference is for larger vehicles so it's not the model for me, but he has yet to say a bad word about his.

                        Our oldest daughter has Mazda 6 which seems to have more room in it than the 3. She seems to really like her car as well, and as far as I know it's been pretty reliable.
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                        • Re: Cars: 2015

                          The Yoopers (Mich Techies) love their Subarus for obvious reasons, given their weather. IIRC, stateofhockey has/had a Mazda 6, which he loved.

                          Even at "no haggle" dealerships, they still have a little wiggle room, depending on your approach. I bought my vehicle at a no haggle, and they saw I had a chart/graph with different interest rates/monthly payments/down payment amounts and such, and still knocked off $500 of the cost. It was basically "Can you do anything on the price" vs "What can you do on the price." Subtle difference, but a difference nonetheless. It's all about your attitude/preparation.
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                            Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                            The Yoopers (Mich Techies) love their Subarus for obvious reasons, given their weather. IIRC, stateofhockey has/had a Mazda 6, which he loved.

                            Even at "no haggle" dealerships, they still have a little wiggle room, depending on your approach. I bought my vehicle at a no haggle, and they saw I had a chart/graph with different interest rates/monthly payments/down payment amounts and such, and still knocked off $500 of the cost. It was basically "Can you do anything on the price" vs "What can you do on the price." Subtle difference, but a difference nonetheless. It's all about your attitude/preparation.
                            They do? I don't think I know a single fellow alum that has a Subaru. And I wouldn't touch one of them with a 20 foot pole.
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                            • Re: Cars: 2015

                              Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
                              They do? I don't think I know a single fellow alum that has a Subaru. And I wouldn't touch one of them with a 20 foot pole.
                              Fade and Twitch have talked highly about them in the past, along with a few randoms, IIRC.
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                              • Originally posted by bigblue_dl View Post
                                They do? I don't think I know a single fellow alum that has a Subaru. And I wouldn't touch one of them with a 20 foot pole.
                                My mechanic son is very leery of the Subaru (and Nissan) transmissions.
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