US Foreign Policy: The Wogs Begin at Calais

[Kepler]

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Hollande pulls an LBJ

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...ion-president/

From the article:

But the latest opinion polls suggested that only 7.5 per cent of the electorate would vote for him in next April's first round of presidential elections,

To put how bad that is in perspective, the Chimperor's global minimum was 26%.

[joecct]

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Oopsy by Immigration. The road to citizenship is temporarily closed.

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/20...hip-approvals/

[bronconick]

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This will go over well

[Kepler]

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This will go over well

The State Department needs to release a statement. "Please don't worry about the orangutan throwing its poop for the next four years. It doesn't speak for America. We thought the world could just use a laugh after such a sh-t 2016."

[dxmnkd316]

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I'm sorry, but I think it's absurd that were getting bent out of shape over this. If we risk global meltdown because of a phone call to Taiwan, we have let it get way too far away from us in the first place.

[Slap Shot]

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I'm sorry, but I think it's absurd that were getting bent out of shape over this. If we risk global meltdown because of a phone call to Taiwan, we have let it get way too far away from us in the first place.

I like Rather's commentary on it and I disagree we should be this flip about it.

[Kepler]

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I'm sorry, but I think it's absurd that were getting bent out of shape over this. If we risk global meltdown because of a phone call to Taiwan, we have let it get way too far away from us in the first place.

No, that's not the way it works. When there is no higher authority to adjudicate problems, where you put the soup spoon becomes really f-cking important. All that dumb etiquette arcana is how you "always remember a woman's birthday but never remember her age." It keeps everybody at the table and communications channels open, and in a "war of all against all" like geopolitics communications is the only thing standing between us and Very Bad Things.

This is symptomatic of Trump not having a clue how diplomacy works. That's scary as f-ck, because while phone calls don't cause wars, phone calls cause breakdowns in relations which then create an environment in which escalation becomes a higher risk.

[dxmnkd316]

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Dear god, trump is actually starting to make sense,

Mr. Trump’s phone call also violated a longstanding principle of American policy: that the president does not speak to the head of Taiwan’s government, despite selling arms to it. “Interesting how the US sells Taiwan billions of dollars of military equipment but I should not accept a congratulatory call,” Mr. Trump said on Twitter after the stunned reaction to his conversation with Ms. Tsai.

[Slap Shot]

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Dear god, trump is actually starting to make sense,

No that's further proof he doesn't get it. What's next, he'll ask why we have nuclear weapons but can't use them? Er, wait..

[dxmnkd316]

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I disagree. If we can sell them missiles and frigates, we can take a phone call. If a phone call is too much, a naval warship is too much.

Obviously it's complicated. But I'm also not going to say we shouldn't be engaging diplomatic relations with all countries, disputed or otherwise.

[Slap Shot]

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I disagree. If we can sell them missiles and frigates, we can take a phone call. If a phone call is too much, a naval warship is too much.

Obviously it's complicated. But I'm also not going to say we shouldn't be engaging diplomatic relations with all countries, disputed or otherwise.

I'm not saying we shouldn't ever start a dialogue, but there are better processes for starting it and sucker-punching China isn't one of them.

[dxmnkd316]

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That I can agree with. So I see your point.

[Kepler]

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Having doofuses like Trump, Farage, Le Pen, Hofer, and Salvini running their yaps will actually be kinda funny occasionally.

"That's one of the biggest political problems in the whole region. And the tragedy for me - and that's why you have these proxy wars being fought the whole time in that area - is that there is not strong enough leadership in the countries themselves."

Talk about an inconvenient truth. Transfer that from the "sh-t everybody knows but that you don't say in public" pile to the "sh-t everybody now has to angrily deny because some Nazi cosplayer tweeted it" pile.

Maybe these clowns will have their uses after all.

[walrus]

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Sending more troops into Syria. Saw some pics yesterday of Aleppo, I'm thinking Dresden didn't look any worse. Unreal what they have done to that country. Its sad, pathetic, disgusting and whatever else you would like to add.

[Kepler]

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Sending more troops into Syria. Saw some pics yesterday of Aleppo, I'm thinking Dresden didn't look any worse. Unreal what they have done to that country. Its sad, pathetic, disgusting and whatever else you would like to add.

Even more infuriating that most of the carnage has been caused by Assad bombing his own city to hold power.