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    They have no ideology about making the world safe for {excuse for imperialism}. Their religion doesn't care what religion you are. They're not going to screw it up.
    1. They need oil just bad as everyone else, actually moreso.

    2. The Chinese are kind of like the metric system. We've been hearing about their inevitable takeover for decades now with equal results to show for it. They may have numbers, but their governmental system will continue to hold them back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaizeRage View Post
    1. They need oil just bad as everyone else, actually moreso.
    1. Actually sounds like the Chinese are hard at work bypassing the petrodollar economy entirely. Too bad our leaders lack the imagination (or the scruples).

    2. The Chinese takeover might not look anything like the UK-US commercial model or the Roman military model. The Chinese idea of global supremacy may simply to be powerful enough that they're impervious to any outside interference, malevolent or benign.

    Dudes have spent the last 5000 years basically wanting to be left alone. They've got their demons, but they don't seem to be the western expansionist demons. They appear to be profoundly uninterested in us except as having the potential to throw one of our occasional ideological fits and attack them.

    It's "keep on your side of the street, round eye." Would that we behaved likewise.
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    Remember how people voted for Trump over Hillary because she was a hawk who would get us embroiled even deeper in the Middle East, and he was an America Firster who would halt our runaway imperialism?

    Suckers.
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    Rut roh. Looks like Putin's Phase 2 is "pull back from puppet boy, make him (even more) the fool."

    There are reports that state television has been instructed to scale back its coverage of the US president. The Kremlin has dismissed these as "rumours".

    "I was told by someone closely connected to one of Russia's main state TV companies that such instructions exist and were issued in the wake of Flynn's departure," says Konstantin Eggert, a political commentator for the independent channel TV Rain.

    "As far as I know, the idea is not so much to present him in a negative light, but to scale down coverage of the United States in general. Inevitably I think there's going to be a scaling down of positive coverage of Trump, too. The Kremlin's idea is to reduce expectations from this much-anticipated detente between Moscow and Washington."
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    Mr. Trump has been played this whole time by Russia. An inexperienced politician matched against a skilled politician whose origins are from counter intelligence and spy craft.

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    Who of you did Nazi this coming?
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    Well golly gee! Whoda thunk it?!?!?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-attack-planes

    Wonder how many Skyraiders are still airworthy? Plus, I wonder if those P-51s I see at airshows could be made combat ready again?

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    Well golly gee! Whoda thunk it?!?!?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-attack-planes

    Wonder how many Skyraiders are still airworthy? Plus, I wonder if those P-51s I see at airshows could be made combat ready again?
    Very few flyable P 51s left. There are no pilots because to start out you get paid diddly squat and the training is expensive . Air Force ROTC, 4 yrs of school, 11 years in the military to pay them back. Plus military pilots probably need a EE degree or some kind of engineering degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Very few flyable P 51s left. There are no pilots because to start out you get paid diddly squat and the training is expensive . Air Force ROTC, 4 yrs of school, 11 years in the military to pay them back. Plus military pilots probably need a EE degree or some kind of engineering degree.
    70 years ago the Army Air Force took farmboys and made them pulots. We need pilots, not scientists.

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    70 years ago the Army Air Force took farmboys and made them pulots. We need pilots, not scientists.
    I think they just look for reaction time now. Quick assessment skills. They might do well to just draft QBs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I think they just look for reaction time now. Quick assessment skills. They might do well to just draft QBs.
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    Very few flyable P 51s left. There are no pilots because to start out you get paid diddly squat and the training is expensive . Air Force ROTC, 4 yrs of school, 11 years in the military to pay them back. Plus military pilots probably need a EE degree or some kind of engineering degree.
    So, now we ****ed up our pilot production? Does this country do anything anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    So, now we ****ed up our pilot production? Does this country do anything anymore?
    Micromanagement - which the Air Force is noted for (read Yeager & Hopper). In war, you get your plane in an advantage position over your opponent. That's piloting. You don't need a college degree for that.

    The Russian approach would be to build 1,000 cheap planes and train 1,000 pilots when you need 250. Attrition will eliminate the bad pilots.

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    Micromanagement - which the Air Force is noted for (read Yeager & Hopper). In war, you get your plane in an advantage position over your opponent. That's piloting. You don't need a college degree for that.
    I'm not even sure that's true anymore. Our ships and planes never come within the same timezone of the ones they are fighting. The computers and guidance systems do all the actual fighting.

    A lot of this is impossible to assess because we haven't had any sort of real practical air combat against a non-wuss opponent in 50 years or against a real navy in 70 years. For all we know, none of this multi-trillion dollar sh-t is even going to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I'm not even sure that's true anymore. Our ships and planes never come within the same timezone of the ones they are fighting. The computers and guidance systems do all the actual fighting.

    A lot of this is impossible to assess because we haven't had any sort of real practical air combat against a non-wuss opponent in 50 years or against a real navy in 70 years. For all we know, none of this multi-trillion dollar sh-t is even going to work.
    Subs I trust. They play cat and mouse with the various blue water navies.

    But how vulnerable are we to cyber war?

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    70 years ago the Army Air Force took farmboys and made them pulots. We need pilots, not scientists.
    Farm boys don't do well with 200 million dollars worth of electronics. That's why engineers are the choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Farm boys don't do well with 200 million dollars worth of electronics. That's why engineers are the choice
    Remember we're talking prop planes here, not F-## super duper interceptor.

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