NHL 2015, Part 3: Stanley Cup and Offseason

[joecct]

Seattle! Seattle! Seattle!

Any sports team that needs a yearly infusion of taxpayer cash needs to move.

[SteveP]

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The arena deal costs $15 million (payments to Glendale from the Coyotes bring the cost down to a bit less than $9 million).

The bone of contention is that a former city employee, while still on the Glendale payrol,l was working for the Coyotes. Under AZ law a contract can be voided under these circumstances.

The only people to make money off this will be the lawyers

Here's the Cliff/Coles Notes on the dustup in the desert.

This is far from over.

Glendale vice mayor Ian Hugh: Coyotes to file injunction and for temporary restraining order against city of Glendale

— Rick Westhead (@rwesthead) June 11, 2015

[trixR4kids]

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How did the Hawks win that game?

The Lightning were faster and had a superior tactical game plan.

Quenneville has to come up with some way to beat the zone press. Neither Plan A, to outskate them, nor Plan B, toss the puck high in the air down the ice and get there first, are working.

Not sure it's game planning as much as having 4 fatigued Dmen and 2 bad ones who sit on the bench for 15 mins and have cement legs.

[Bob Gray]

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Here's the Cliff/Coles Notes on the dustup in the desert.

This is far from over.

Glendale vice mayor Ian Hugh: Coyotes to file injunction and for temporary restraining order against city of Glendale

— Rick Westhead (@rwesthead) June 11, 2015

Sad what a train wreck this franchise has been since coming to Arizona and it just gets crazier. It really seemed things were settling down after the 15 year deal was signed. This, if possible, makes Glendale look even worse than everything they've done to date. Apparently Glendale barely even let the Coyotes know about this meeting. Thanks Glendale for building a hockey arena where one never should have been built and then harassing our hockey team into very possibly leaving town. Sometimes you really do reap what you sow. Unfortunately many folks in Glendale who had nothing to do with this will pay for this fiasco one way or the other for many years, including possibly paying out in a judgment I'd think the Coyotes have a good chance of winning. The only sliver of hope I see in this as an Arizona hockey fan is the slight possibility something could be worked out to move the team back downtown or into an arena that could get built on the Salt River Pima Reservation or maybe in coordination somehow with the Suns desire for a new arena (maybe redo the Suns current arena for the Yotes?).

[trixR4kids]

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Sad what a train wreck this franchise has been since coming to Arizona and it just gets crazier. It really seemed things were settling down after the 15 year deal was signed. This, if possible, makes Glendale look even worse than everything they've done to date. Apparently Glendale barely even let the Coyotes know about this meeting. Thanks Glendale for building a hockey arena where one never should have been built and then harassing our hockey team into very possibly leaving town. Sometimes you really do reap what you sow. Unfortunately many folks in Glendale who had nothing to do with this will pay for this fiasco one way or the other for many years, including possibly paying out in a judgment I'd think the Coyotes have a good chance of winning. The only sliver of hope I see in this as an Arizona hockey fan is the slight possibility something could be worked out to move the team back downtown or into an arena that could get built on the Salt River Pima Reservation or maybe in coordination somehow with the Suns desire for a new arena (maybe redo the Suns current arena for the Yotes?).

Nice to have someone in the area who kinda understands the dynamics of the situation instead of "HURRRR HOCKEY IN DESERT NO WORK!".

Everything I've heard from fans of the team say the same thing, having an arena in Glendale rather than downtown is a huge issue in terms of traffic and commuting etc. That and consistently having a terrible team will result in bad attendance and lack of interest.

[Bob Gray]

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Nice to have someone in the area who kinda understands the dynamics of the situation instead of "HURRRR HOCKEY IN DESERT NO WORK!".

Everything I've heard from fans of the team say the same thing, having an arena in Glendale rather than downtown is a huge issue in terms of traffic and commuting etc. That and consistently having a terrible team will result in bad attendance and lack of interest.

Glendale was desperate for many years to get on the map and they decided luring pro sports teams was the way to do it, pretty much regardless of cost. Things worked out well with the Arizona Cardinals relocating to Glendale, but the NFL is popular enough that it's ok to stick the stadium way on one side of the metro area (plus games are sundays when traffic is way easier). Hockey doesn't have as much margin for error, and sticking the arena in Glendale was always a loser to most folks who didn't have a dog in the fight. Moving the Coyotes to Glendale cut out the entire east side of Phoenix, including Scottsdale, Mesa, Gilbert, Chandler, etc. from easily attending, as you'd have to fight rush hour traffic for an hour plus to go to a game if you live on the east side. But, Glendale wanted them so bad they didn't pay attention to such obvious facts and it's been a mess ever since.

I'm not going to say Phoenix is a great hockey town, but it's growing (and ASU going D1 can only further boost the local market!) and with a well run club and a good arena location, they would be ok. Sadly, I doubt that will ever be tested.

Glendale using the loophole also sounds dicey from what I've read and heard locally today.

[Bomber]

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I was right about the kid. If I'm a Lightning fan, I pay someone to club Ben Bishop's leg to make sure he doesn't return this year.

I don't know what to think anymore, except that the Lightning are a fantastic and confident hockey team right now. Just gotta hope the Hawks "been there, done that" grit and experience somehow trumps speed and skill.

[icehawk]

I was right about the kid. If I'm a Lightning fan, I pay someone to club Ben Bishop's leg to make sure he doesn't return this year.

I don't know what to think anymore, except that the Lightning are a fantastic and confident hockey team right now. Just gotta hope the Hawks "been there, done that" grit and experience somehow trumps speed and skill.

In all reality this thing could be over. Bolts have been the better team in all 4 games in my opinion. But as we know hockey doesn't work that way with a hot goalie and all.

[boblav1]

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Seattle watchful as Ariz. city cancels lease with NHL's Coyotes

[Hammer]

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Gawd, I would have thought the net would have come off after that.

[Hammer]

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What the hell was THAT, Bishop??

[cF[Authentic]]

Gawd, I would have thought the net would have come off after that.

You'd think it should move with that much force just for safety reasons.

[Hammer]

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You'd think it should move with that much force just for safety reasons.

My thoughts exactly.

[Bomber]

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Both goalies are a mess handling the puck tonight.

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8 minutes, no whistles