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  • #871
    Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

    Pennsylvania booze laws.... I'm in a downtown hotel and the closest place to buy booze is about hour round trip journey via public transport.... Totally not worth going past the 50+ bars on the way to said liquor store... I guess we're spoiled in the Midwest by being able to get booze at almost and gas station or grocery store....
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    • #872
      Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

      Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post
      Pennsylvania booze laws.... I'm in a downtown hotel and the closest place to buy booze is about hour round trip journey via public transport.... Totally not worth going past the 50+ bars on the way to said liquor store... I guess we're spoiled in the Midwest by being able to get booze at almost and gas station or grocery store....
      Speak for yourself. In MN, you have to go to a liquor store to get anything that's not 3.2% or lower.
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      • #873
        Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

        Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
        Speak for yourself. In MN, you have to go to a liquor store to get anything that's not 3.2% or lower.
        Colorado is weird about that. Supermarket chains are allowed one store for the entire state that can carry liquor and full strength beer. All their other stores in the state can only carry 3.2. Independently run liquor stores are A-OK though. The line is that they're protecting the small craft brewers that would otherwise lose out on shelf space to Anheuser-Busch-Miller-Coors-whoever.

        And the King Soopers (Kroger) that is the chosen one happens to be two miles from my house.

        ETA: And as soon as I say that, literally minutes ago Hickenlooper signed this.

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        • #874
          Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

          Originally posted by Twitch Boy View Post
          Colorado is weird about that. Supermarket chains are allowed one store for the entire state that can carry liquor and full strength beer. All their other stores in the state can only carry 3.2. Independently run liquor stores are A-OK though. The line is that they're protecting the small craft brewers that would otherwise lose out on shelf space to Anheuser-Busch-Miller-Coors-whoever.

          And the King Soopers (Kroger) that is the chosen one happens to be two miles from my house.

          ETA: And as soon as I say that, literally minutes ago Hickenlooper signed this.

          http://www.9news.com/news/local/gove...e-in/239032389
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          • #875
            Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

            Alaska you have to go to a liquor store for anything including beer.
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            • #876
              Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
              Speak for yourself. In MN, you have to go to a liquor store to get anything that's not 3.2% or lower.
              I talked to a distributor about that once and they hinted (in a not so subtle way) that the stuff marked 3.2 is not actually 3.2 but is closer to full. Many beer companies (I guess) realized that the fine for "incorrect labeling" the beer was worth the sales they get. They also "hinted" that there is actually no 3.2 beer in MN at all.

              Now, I never verified any of this because I dont drink beer but I have had others say similar stuff. Probably just an urban myth though.
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              • #877
                Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

                Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                Alaska you have to go to a liquor store for anything including beer.
                In Montgomery County, MD the liquor stores have to buy ALL their stuff from the County. The county decides on what to stock in the warehouse and if you clients want PBR and PBR is not in the warehouse, no PBR for them. The customers go over the county (or state) line and then buy PBR. Your store is out of the sale, depriving you of earnings and the county is out of it's share of the booze tax.

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                • #878
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                  I wish we would blow up all alcohol laws in this country and start over.
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                  • #879
                    Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

                    Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                    I talked to a distributor about that once and they hinted (in a not so subtle way) that the stuff marked 3.2 is not actually 3.2 but is closer to full. Many beer companies (I guess) realized that the fine for "incorrect labeling" the beer was worth the sales they get. They also "hinted" that there is actually no 3.2 beer in MN at all.

                    Now, I never verified any of this because I dont drink beer but I have had others say similar stuff. Probably just an urban myth though.
                    I was friends with a guy who owned a pub that could only sell 3.2, and he said the same thing. The caveat is that most beers that are made in a 3.2 variety aren't really that much higher in their normal variety. The Mich lights, Bud lights, Miller lights etc. are all around 3.6, and the MGDs, Buds, etc are usually in the high 3's-low 4's.

                    He also said Guinness wouldn't distribute to him, because they didn't want it made so apparent to the public that their beer is only 3.2% alcohol.

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                    • #880
                      Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

                      Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                      I talked to a distributor about that once and they hinted (in a not so subtle way) that the stuff marked 3.2 is not actually 3.2 but is closer to full. Many beer companies (I guess) realized that the fine for "incorrect labeling" the beer was worth the sales they get. They also "hinted" that there is actually no 3.2 beer in MN at all.

                      Now, I never verified any of this because I dont drink beer but I have had others say similar stuff. Probably just an urban myth though.
                      I think he's full of it. All one need to is try beer bought in a grocery store vs. a liquor store and the difference is immense and immediately noticeable.

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                      • #881
                        Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

                        Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                        I think he's full of it. All one need to is try beer bought in a grocery store vs. a liquor store and the difference is immense and immediately noticeable.
                        This.

                        What is really funny is that there are a ton of craft beers out there that are 4% or so, less than the Buds/Michs out there, but those are just wonderful beers, but the macros are crap because they are too weak.
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                        • #882
                          Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

                          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                          This.

                          What is really funny is that there are a ton of craft beers out there that are 4% or so, less than the Buds/Michs out there, but those are just wonderful beers, but the macros are crap because they are too weak.
                          The macros are crap because they taste bad. They're all the worse when 3.2% because if you're product is going to taste bad the least it could do is get you tanked.
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                          • #883
                            Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

                            Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                            The macros are crap because they taste bad. They're all the worse when 3.2% because if you're product is going to taste bad the least it could do is get you tanked.
                            I get that part. Mainly taking a potshot at the craft beer fans who take shots at the "water" that is the macro beers.
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                            • #884
                              Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

                              Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                              I think he's full of it. All one need to is try beer bought in a grocery store vs. a liquor store and the difference is immense and immediately noticeable.
                              I have tried it...they taste the same...like swill that is mostly water
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                              • #885
                                Re: Gear Grinding 6: I'm So Over This.

                                Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                                This.

                                What is really funny is that there are a ton of craft beers out there that are 4% or so, less than the Buds/Michs out there, but those are just wonderful beers, but the macros are crap because they are too weak.
                                I don't know any craft brew fans that give a s**t about alcoholic content as opposed to taste. The fact the majority of them are in fact of higher content is a natural byproduct of their ingredients. Fat Tire is 5.3%, Anchor Steam is 4.9%, Blue Moon is 5.4%, Sierra Nevada Porter 5.7%, Bud is 5%, Miller Lite/Bud Lite/Coors Lite is 4.2%. Start getting into imperials, stronger pale ales etc. and it's not even close.

                                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                I have tried it...they taste the same...like swill that is mostly water
                                Yes, Miller Lite is going to taste like crap regardless but there is a distinct difference, and for instance a Heineken (which is also not a fave of mine even at full strength) is also noticeably different.
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