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  • #136
    Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

    Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
    Tonight is what SHOULD happen during a forced curfew. Gotta give props to the residents and the cops tonight.
    But......................FREEDOMS!!!!

    Gotta love the patriots here who love when government tells you you can't even step out of your own home.
    What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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    • #137
      Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

      Originally posted by rufus View Post
      But......................FREEDOMS!!!!

      Gotta love the patriots here who love when government tells you you can't even step out of your own home.
      Ah, but the government's not telling them.

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      • #138
        Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

        Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
        The preferred "narrative" at least doesn't fit, one cannot be arguing that a "racist white police force" in Baltimore is "oppressing" the black population. Police chief, mayor, district attorney are all black, police force is 40% black, population is 63% black, source not handy though I'm sure someone will quickly correct those statistics if they are off by much.
        But as the Baltimore Sun has reported, there is documented evidence of a police force abusing and beating a civilian population, with no cause. Whether you would call it racist or not, it certainly shows a department abusing its authority.
        Last edited by rufus; 04-30-2015, 09:11 AM.
        What kind of cheese are you planning to put on top?

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        • #139
          Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

          Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
          Hmm...the irony of those who hail from the states with the lowest per-capita population of blacks, being the most vocal in delivering pious lectures to the rest of us on "proper" race relations, based no doubt on extensive personal experience, eh?
          Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
          Nope, not at all. Merely noticing the correlation, not drawing any inference from it.
          That is baloney, and you know it.

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          • #140
            Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

            Originally posted by rufus View Post
            But as the Baltimore Sun has reported, there is documented evidence of a police force abusing and beating a civilian population, with no cause. Whether you would call it racist or not, it certainly shows a department abusing its authority.
            It's abuse of the poors. Race just handily color-codes them.

            I for one am absolutely shocked that when you treat the poors like garbage and siphon them into ghettoized neighborhoods with terrible schools from which they have no effective means of meeting their own needs or garnering formal political support to assist them, some of them resort to violence. That's just so tacky.
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            • #141
              Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

              Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
              delivering pious lectures
              Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.
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              • #142
                Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                Engage tinfoil hats.

                Anon family member of a Balt officer coming forward. She's a sista. Gray allegedly injuring himself (or trying to). Alleged criminal (prisoner) saying the same story. This is a mess. This will not end well. I know what I want to believe, but right now...I think the cop(s) were in the wrong. I hope that *I* am the one in the wrong.
                Said story made front page of WaPo.

                Another story blames lead paint.
                Last edited by joecct; 04-30-2015, 10:24 AM.
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                • #143
                  Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

                  Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                  Engage tinfoil hats.

                  Anon family member of a Balt officer coming forward. She's a sista. Gray allegedly injuring himself (or trying to). Alleged criminal (prisoner) saying the same story. This is a mess. This will not end well. I know what I want to believe, but right now...I think the cop(s) were in the wrong. I hope that *I* am the one in the wrong.
                  Cops made an offer the prisoners couldn't refuse, and the prisoners made a deal with the devil. It's the common Prisoner's Dilemma, which I'm sure has come up in the Monty Hall thread. Wait until those prisoners find out that the cops won't hold up their end of the bargain, as there's no advantageous reason to do so. The only people who will really know the truth has just been mentioned, and just as you said, anyone who tries to claim the truth will be declared "tinfoil hats".

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                  • #144
                    Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

                    Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    Said story made front page of WaPo.

                    Another story blames lead paint.
                    Made CBS this AM as well.
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                    • #145
                      Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

                      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                      Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.
                      You forgot the after the pious lecture
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                      • #146
                        Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        It's abuse of the poors. Race just handily color-codes them.

                        I for one am absolutely shocked that when you treat the poors like garbage and siphon them into ghettoized neighborhoods with terrible schools from which they have no effective means of meeting their own needs or garnering formal political support to assist them, some of them resort to violence. That's just so tacky.
                        Wow, I never thought you would reject the legacy of Great Society programs!

                        Although, to paraphrase, we fought the war on poverty using the wrong weapons, and as a result, poverty won....
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                        • #147
                          Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.
                          yeah, no one would ever call you pious, though a few other choice adjectives come to mind....

                          impious, for example.
                          "Hope is a good thing; maybe the best of things."

                          "Beer is a sign that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -- Benjamin Franklin

                          "Being Irish, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy." -- W. B. Yeats

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                          • #148
                            Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

                            Originally posted by FreshFish View Post
                            Wow, I never thought you would reject the legacy of Great Society programs!
                            Guess again, friend.

                            Poverty craters through the years of the New Deal and Great Society.

                            It's first significant and protracted increase begins in 1981.

                            It's next protracted decrease starts in 1993.

                            It's next significant and protracted increase begins in 2000.

                            But I'm sure all of that historical data is just a coincidence.

                            Policies designed solely to benefit the 1% consistently increase the number of Americans in poverty; policies to ameliorate poverty decrease it. Shocker.
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                            • #149
                              Re: Cops 2: Pay No Attention to the Rioters Behind the Curtain

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Guess again, friend.

                              Poverty craters through the years of the New Deal and Great Society.

                              It's first significant and protracted increase begins in 1981.

                              It's next protracted decrease starts in 1993.

                              It's next significant and protracted increase begins in 2000.

                              But I'm sure all of that historical data is just a coincidence.

                              Policies designed solely to benefit the 1% consistently increase the number of Americans in poverty; policies to ameliorate poverty decrease it. Shocker.
                              The first time listed is under Reagan, the second time listed is under Clinton.
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                              • #150
                                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                                The first time listed is under Reagan, the second time listed is under Clinton.
                                Read it carefully. The first is an increase. The seconds is a decrease.

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