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  • #61
    Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

    I'm amused by the double standard amongst political pundits. Rand Paul has a disasterous roll-out, complete with arguing with everybody with the gall to ask him tough questions, and yet that's spun as some sort of good thing that won't come back to bite him I can't image the press Hillary Clinton would get if she pulled that.
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    • #62
      Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

      Originally posted by Rover View Post
      I'm amused by the double standard amongst political pundits. Rand Paul has a disasterous roll-out, complete with arguing with everybody with the gall to ask him tough questions, and yet that's spun as some sort of good thing that won't come back to bite him
      I haven't seen this described as anything but a bad start.

      Paul needs to stick to the GOP script: keep inside the bubble; only let friendlies interview you. Primary voters overwhelmingly get their opinions from Fox or one of the big hate radio entertainers, so time spent away from them is invisibility anyway.
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      • #63
        Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        I haven't seen this described as anything but a bad start.

        Paul needs to stick to the GOP script: keep inside the bubble; only let friendlies interview you. Primary voters overwhelmingly get their opinions from Fox or one of the big hate radio entertainers, so time spent away from them is invisibility anyway.
        Ditto for Madame Defarge (I like that name!).
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        • #64
          Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
          I haven't seen this described as anything but a bad start.

          Paul needs to stick to the GOP script: keep inside the bubble; only let friendlies interview you. Primary voters overwhelmingly get their opinions from Fox or one of the big hate radio entertainers, so time spent away from them is invisibility anyway.

          One thing missing from the Great GOP Hope articles that we see every week (is there any Republican who isn't described as a "rising star") is whether these people can sell themselves nationally. There was a blurb about how Scott Walker has gone dark media wise after some pointed questions. In it was the notion that he won his elections during a GOP wave vs weak opposition, which doesn't necessarily prepare you for the national stage (see Perry, Rick).

          Paul has similar issues. Its great to rail about black helicopters and letting states decide whether blacks and women should have the right to vote when talking to the CPAC crowd, but his Savannah Guthrie interview is going to be his new normal so he may as well get used to it.

          That's why I'm still liking Calgary Ted for the nomination. There's no nuance in his positions and people, particularly GOP primary voters, like that.
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          Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

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          • #65
            Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

            So, was Carly Fiorina horrible at HP or not? Heard her talking this morning and though she admits being fired the way she spins it she was God's gift to HP.
            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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            • #66
              Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

              Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
              So, was Carly Fiorina horrible at HP or not? Heard her talking this morning and though she admits being fired the way she spins it she was God's gift to HP.
              Any tech executive who fancies themselves a politician is probably terrible at both.
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              • #67
                Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Any tech executive who fancies themselves a politician is probably terrible at both.
                Not really. Politics is real everywhere in business and nothing beats a high Charisma score for anything.
                **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                • #68
                  Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  So, was Carly Fiorina horrible at HP or not? Heard her talking this morning and though she admits being fired the way she spins it she was God's gift to HP.
                  She was horrible. Engineered a bad merger. The families of the people who founded the company hated her. The stock plummeted during her tenure and she got fired not very far into her time as CEO. Also notice she never got another job again even though she was fairly young although she has had some health problems so perhaps that factored in. As I said before, the GOP would be better off trotting Meg Whitman out there than Fiorina.

                  This is amusing, the Marc Rubio bandwagon!

                  http://politicalwire.com/2015/04/13/...est-candidate/
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                  Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

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                  • #69
                    Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                    Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                    Not really. Politics is real everywhere in business and nothing beats a high Charisma score for anything.
                    That's true.
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                    • #70
                      Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                      Originally posted by Rover View Post
                      She was horrible. Engineered a bad merger. The families of the people who founded the company hated her. The stock plummeted during her tenure and she got fired not very far into her time as CEO. Also notice she never got another job again even though she was fairly young although she has had some health problems so perhaps that factored in. As I said before, the GOP would be better off trotting Meg Whitman out there than Fiorina.

                      This is amusing, the Marc Rubio bandwagon!

                      http://politicalwire.com/2015/04/13/...est-candidate/
                      Rubio is a strong establishment candidate for GOPers who have Bush Fatigue.

                      The "water lunge" is the dumbest thing to injure a candidate since the Dean Scream or Muskie's Tears. Good thing we're deciding the most powerful political office in the world on such vital and relevant information.
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                      • #71
                        Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                        Wayne LaPierre explains what the NRA is looking for in a president:

                        “I have to tell you, eight years of one demographically symbolic president is enough.”

                        So Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz need not apply.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                          Today in derp.
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                          • #73
                            Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                            Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                            Wayne LaPierre explains what the NRA is looking for in a president:

                            “I have to tell you, eight years of one demographically symbolic president is enough.”

                            So Ben Carson, Carly Fiorina, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz need not apply.
                            Speaking of which, Marco Rubio applied for the job today.
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                            • #74
                              Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Rubio is a strong establishment candidate for GOPers who have Bush Fatigue.

                              The "water lunge" is the dumbest thing to injure a candidate since the Dean Scream or Muskie's Tears. Good thing we're deciding the most powerful political office in the world on such vital and relevant information.
                              I don't think he's damaged by that. He's damaged by taking positions that the majority of the country doesn't agree with. For example, now that is immigration efforts have fizzled out and he's backpedalled on them, his calling card is opposition to the opening with Cuba....something the American people overwhelmingly agree with the Obama administration on. Basically his base on that is 1) old Cold Warriors, and 2) old Cubans who remember the revolution. Gee, that's the reliable GOP voters anyway. Any plan on reaching outside of the comfort zone?
                              Legally drunk???? If its "legal", what's the ------- problem?!? - George Carlin

                              Ever notice how everybody who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everybody who drives faster is a maniac? - George Carlin

                              "I've never seen so much reason and bullsh*t contained in ONE MAN."

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                              • #75
                                Re: Campaign 2016 - It's never too late to start all over again!

                                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                                I don't think he's damaged by that. He's damaged by taking positions that the majority of the country doesn't agree with. For example, now that is immigration efforts have fizzled out and he's backpedalled on them, his calling card is opposition to the opening with Cuba....something the American people overwhelmingly agree with the Obama administration on. Basically his base on that is 1) old Cold Warriors, and 2) old Cubans who remember the revolution. Gee, that's the reliable GOP voters anyway. Any plan on reaching outside of the comfort zone?
                                I think his Cuba stance is actually smart. Even though most Americans probably think it's time to normalize, they don't care about it at all. OTOH, the dead enders who want to boil Castro in oil because he nationalized grandpappy's sugar plantation care IN ALL CAPS!!!1 And they have money. He loses virtually nothing by stroking those knucks, and he stands to gain a lot of cash.
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