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  • #16
    Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

    Originally posted by elbojpb View Post
    Okay ... I don't claim to be a statistician, but if the cost of living index in Middlebury VT is 119.60, wouldn't the cost of living be 19.6% greater than the national average NOT 15.7% ?? Or do these two groups not use the same set of metrics to measure cost of living??
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    • #17
      Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

      I have a question not related to hockey - has anyone ever heard of baseball innings referred to as "frames"?
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      • #18
        Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

        Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
        I have a question not related to hockey - has anyone ever heard of baseball innings referred to as "frames"?
        Yes.

        Relates, I guess, to the inning by inning score which would be a 3 x whatever table.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
          I have a question not related to hockey - has anyone ever heard of baseball innings referred to as "frames"?
          Yes
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          • #20
            Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

            Originally posted by joecct View Post
            Yes.

            Relates, I guess, to the inning by inning score which would be a 3 x whatever table.
            I've heard it used in bowling and billiards and in baseball to "frame a pitch" - to make it appear to have passed through the strike zone, this is a first for me, but I guess it is used in place of inning
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            • #21
              Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

              Conference Rankings:

              **Formula**

              X= Average KRACH ranking of each team in conference
              Y= Average SOS ranking of each team in conference
              Z= the sum of X + Y
              R = Conference Average

              X=Y / 2 = Z
              Z / 2 = R


              Conferences with Automatic Bids:

              NESCAC: 2.255
              SUNYAC: 3.25061
              MIAC: 3.32778
              NCHA: 3.815
              ECAC-E: 5.25
              ECAC-NE: 6.976
              MASCAC: 9.571

              Pool C Conferences:

              ECAC-W: 3.18
              WIAC: 4.38


              Thoughts??

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              • #22
                Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

                Hypothetical Future Conference Re-alignment: Some Conferences are split into two divisions because the switch in number of games from 25 to 23. Still Leaving space for Out of Conference Games.

                2016-2017:

                ECAC-West: (8) Will turn ECAC-West into Auto-Bid
                Elmira
                Hobart
                Lebanon Valley College
                Manhattanville
                Nazareth
                Neumann
                Utica College
                Stevenson





                ECAC-NE: (10) Each division opponent plays each other twice, cross division once.
                Central Division
                Becker
                Curry College
                Daniel Webster
                Endicott College
                Western New England
                South Division:
                Johnson & Wales
                Nichols College
                Salve Regina
                Suffolk
                Wentworth

                ECAC-East: (10) Each division opponent plays each other twice, cross division once.
                North Division:
                Castleton
                Norwich
                St. Michael’s
                Southern Maine
                University of New England
                South Division:
                Babson
                New England College
                St. Anselm
                Skidmore
                UMass-Boston

                MASCAC: (8)
                Fitchburg State
                Framingham State
                UMass- Dartmouth
                Plymouth State
                Salem State
                Westfield State
                Worcester State
                Western Connecticut State

                NESCAC: (10) Each division opponent plays each other twice, cross division once.
                Hebert Division:
                Bowdoin
                Middlebury
                Trinity
                Colby
                Hamilton


                Stillman Division:
                Amherst
                Tufts
                Williams
                Connecticut College
                Wesleyan

                SUNYAC: (10) Each division opponent plays each other twice, cross division once.
                East Division:
                Plattsburgh
                Potsdam
                Canton
                Oswego
                Morrisville
                West Division:
                Cortland
                Brockport
                Geneseo
                Buffalo State
                Fredonia

                Mid-West College Hockey Conference: (8) Automatic Bid
                Lawrence
                Marian
                Northland
                Wisconsin- Eau Claire
                Wisconsin- Stevens Point
                Wisconsin- River Falls
                Wisconsin- Stout
                Wisconsin- Superior

                NCHA: (8)
                Adrian
                St. Norbert
                Lake Forrest
                MSOE
                St. Scholastica
                Concordia (WI)
                Finlandia
                Aurora

                MIAC: (9)
                St.Thomas
                Saint Mary’s
                Concordia (MN)
                Augsburg
                Hamline
                Saint John’s
                Gustavus Adolphus
                St. Olaf
                Bethel




                New NCAA tournament format:

                NESCAC Champion
                SUNYAC Champion
                ECAC-E Champion
                ECAC-NE Champion
                ECAC-W Champion
                MASCAC Champion
                MWHC Champion
                MIAC Champion
                NCHA Champion

                7 At-Large Bids:

                What If?

                What the 2015 tournament would have looked like under this format


                Amherst
                (16) Plymouth State

                (5) Plattsburgh
                (12) St. Norbert College

                (4) Stevens Point
                (13) Williams

                (8) Oswego
                (9) River-Falls


                (2) Trinity
                (15) Hamline

                (6) Norwich
                (11) UMass-Boston

                (3) Adrian
                (14) Nichols

                (7) Hobart
                (10) Eau-Claire

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                • #23
                  Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

                  -The 23-game season was shelved for further discussion, and never approved. And I would imagine, if it passed, it would be with the amendment for 24 games sponsored by many top hockey schools (because their justification was "treat us the same as basketball", which is hard to argue against in thr DIII context). But my understanding is we will still have 25 for at least one more season.

                  -The ECAC-W won't have an autobid until 2017-2018.

                  -The addition of LVC, Stevenson, and Endicott MIGHT push us to a 12-team tournament, but there is no way we get a 16-team tournament. Access ratios have to be the same across all DIII sports, and right now that is 1/6.5 teams. If anything, with the push to limit costs by cutting a few game from the season, there have been further cost-cutting discussions that involved scrapping Pool C altogether. Win your conference or GTFO.
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                  ECACW Champ x11: 81, 82, 87, 92, 06, 07, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17
                  NEWHL Champ x5: 18, 19, 20, 22, 23
                  NCAA DIII Champ x10-ish: 87, 92, 01, 07, 08, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19
                  NCAA DIII Runner-up x4-ish: 86, 90, 06, 08
                  NCAA DII Runner-up x2: 81, 82

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                  • #24
                    Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

                    Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
                    I've heard it used in bowling and billiards and in baseball to "frame a pitch" - to make it appear to have passed through the strike zone, this is a first for me, but I guess it is used in place of inning
                    It's slang, not an official term. I believe it is derived from the scoreboards, especially the old manual ones, that had box after box to show the scoring per inning. Looks like picture frames.
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                    • #25
                      Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

                      SUNYACWRITER

                      Nice try - I'd redo it with a couple of changes
                      1. Remove the Saints from the ECAC-E
                      2. Form the Commonwealth Coast Conference

                      Then realign as necessary.
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                      1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

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                      • #26
                        Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

                        Originally posted by norm1909 View Post
                        I have a question not related to hockey - has anyone ever heard of baseball innings referred to as "frames"?
                        You hear broadcasters use the term. Starting pitcher threw 7 frames today. I don't think I've ever heard a coach or player use it before...
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                        • #27
                          Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

                          -The ECAC-W won't have an autobid until 2017-2018.
                          The big question is how will the A Autobid be decided
                          A) Tournament Champion
                          B) League Champion
                          C) Fishman'81

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                          • #28
                            Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

                            Originally posted by VT bragging rights View Post
                            The big question is how will the A Autobid be decided
                            A) Tournament Champion
                            B) League Champion
                            C) Fishman'81
                            If Pool C goes away in all sports to save championship costs, I could imagine the call for, in some circles, for the elimination of conference tournaments to select the AQ. However, that would mean that a boatload of teams would have 0 NCAA chances around MLK Day and they'd be playing out the string. No, I think we'll still see conference tournaments to decide the Pool A bids. Some will do one and done while others will do multi game formats for each round.
                            CCT '77 & '78
                            4 kids
                            5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                            1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                            ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                            - Benjamin Franklin

                            Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                            I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by VT bragging rights View Post
                              The big question is how will the A Autobid be decided
                              A) Tournament Champion
                              B) League Champion
                              C) Fishman'81
                              C). At least he will tell us why......
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                              • #30
                                Re: 2015 Off Season banter. New coaches, teams, players, etc. Have fun!

                                Originally posted by LakerEagleLover View Post
                                C). At least he will tell us why......
                                Like the Krachety old man that he is
                                Larry Normandin
                                SUNY Cobleskill '83-SUNY Plattsburgh '00

                                Temper is one thing you can't get rid of by losing it.

                                God gave everyone patience-The wise use it.

                                Trust is like paper - Once crumbled it can never again be perfect.

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                                Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand!

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