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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman View Post
    Maybe they'll have a few different things. Unless a brewery goes strictly on its reputation (Green Flash, San Diego, for example) there's always something different on their list.

    To me, my favorite breweries are the ones that offer pilot beers, brewery only drafts, and other experimentals. That way, if you're not thrilled with their standard line then there's other opportunities and a chance to do something different.
    Surly mainly relies on their reputation and a few of their annual releases (the numbered series and Darkness, for sure; minor releases like Abrasive/etc).
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    Surly mainly relies on their reputation and a few of their annual releases (the numbered series and Darkness, for sure; minor releases like Abrasive/etc).
    Surly usually has some interesting stuff at the brewery, not just their standard lineup.

    Right now they have:
    Bender
    Coffee Bender
    CynicAle
    Hell
    Furious
    Witch's Tower
    Fiery Hell
    Cacao! Bender
    Abrasive
    Todd the Axe Man
    Mild
    Overrated
    Devil's Work

    Of those, I'd only call 6 of them "regular" beers for Surly, 7 if you want to count Abrasive. There are plenty of new things to try. I'd really like to taste Fiery Hell.
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    For taproom stuff, that's a bit different. I'd say most taprooms have stuff you can't get anywhere but there. I find a lot of that when I visit CO. I was referring to canning/bottling new and different beers. Founders has been doing a lot of different things in the past couple years, for example, while Surly has pretty much remained the same for their retail products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    For taproom stuff, that's a bit different. I'd say most taprooms have stuff you can't get anywhere but there. I find a lot of that when I visit CO. I was referring to canning/bottling new and different beers. Founders has been doing a lot of different things in the past couple years, for example, while Surly has pretty much remained the same for their retail products.
    Well, since he posted about going to the Surly taproom...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblue_dl View Post
    Well, since he posted about going to the Surly taproom...
    I was referring to Patman's post, and most of those Surly taproom offerings, I've heard of before. I'm just saying they don't change their beers much; they have their reputation. IMO, that is why Hammerheart is all over the board with their beers. They are still building their reputation, and have more leeway to experiment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I was referring to Patman's post, and most of those Surly taproom offerings, I've heard of before. I'm just saying they don't change their beers much; they have their reputation. IMO, that is why Hammerheart is all over the board with their beers. They are still building their reputation, and have more leeway to experiment.
    I've been to enough breweries to get a sense of what goes on. No, you aren't going to have a lot of random **** out to the public at the various liquor stores... I was trying to address St. Clown's concerns about having a good time given some of their beer styles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I was referring to Patman's post, and most of those Surly taproom offerings, I've heard of before. I'm just saying they don't change their beers much; they have their reputation. IMO, that is why Hammerheart is all over the board with their beers. They are still building their reputation, and have more leeway to experiment.
    And Patman was referring to the same post of St. Clown's I was...we're talking about taproom offerings.

    And yeah, you have heard of those beers before, but you can't go to the liquor store and buy them. They're taproom (or ABR) specific offerings. They're beers that you wouldn't have tried from Surly if you are only familiar with the their canned/bottled beers.
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    Killed off my Zacapa 23 Solera while cleaning the basement for a party that will be here tomorrow.

    Was a solid 3 fingers neat.

    Feelin' awlright!


    That's a **** fine rum. So smooth with no burn and a wonderful depth and sweetness.

    Not planning on restocking it right away, but might have to after I kill something less desirable on the top shelf.

    It's so much more worthy than some I still have, but I have no room right now and truth be told, I have an embarrassing number of bottles.


    Moved onto the Corzo Reposado neat. Another one with zero burn.

    I'm no tequila expert, but this is sublime.

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    Getting a few New Glarus sours in a trade in a few weeks. Pretty excited to try Serendipity and Wisconsin Belgian Red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rimbaud View Post
    Getting a few New Glarus sours in a trade in a few weeks. Pretty excited to try Serendipity and Wisconsin Belgian Red.
    The Belgian Red is awesome.
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    There's been a death...


    They killed my bottle of Angostura 7 which was almost full.

    No biggie as it's for mixing and is what I count as amongst my "rail" rums. My "rail" is pretty ****ing high end.

    I'll get another bottle when I kill an equivalent.


    Had a few rum and tequila affectionados over amongst our party guests and we dove into my collection along with a couple of tequilas that a guest brought over. Was fun to have people over that not only wanted to try some of my top shelf selections, but could recognize their quality.


    Yeah, I'm ****ed up now.


    The bar took a serious hit tonight, but that's why I have it. Great night!


    Also killed tonight were 5 bottles of wine, a bottle of Jack, a bottle of Captain (I tried, but some people can't be reached) and a bottle of Bombay Sapphire - some serious gin & tonic people over.
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    Sipping on some Plantation XO 20th Anniversary as a reward for cleaning up before bed.
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    So I bought my first ever bottle of cognac yesterday and gave it a good try last night.

    Pierre Ferrand Ambre - considered a great entry level cognac and rated very highly. Many reviews say it would be a steal at twice the price - I bought mine for $46.


    Meh. It was smooth and certainly complex. Almost no burn.

    I've never really had brandy before, so maybe I wasn't ready for what it tasted like. It was hard to ignore the taste of fermented grapes which was always there in the background.

    I don't mean to say that I didn't like it, but it wasn't a revelation either. I'm not left thinking that I had been missing out all this time and I'm also not overly motivated to seek out and try other cognacs.


    I'll give it another try at a later date.

    I did decide to try my Korbel VSOP afterwards to see if our brandy (USA) is similar. It clearly was at least in taste profile - meaning I could tell both were the same type of spirit.
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    Moved onto my Appleton 12 and then onto my Russel's Reserve 6 Rye.

    Was totally ****ing with my taste buds last night.


    All this while spending a couple of hours on the guitar. It's funny that the songs played over that time changed with the liquor type. Started with Airborne Toxic Event, Third Eye Blind (God of Wine - GREAT song) etc, moved to Stick Figure, Grateful Dead, Waterboys etc. and was doing Townes Van Zandt and Tom Waits by the time I got to the Rye.
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    From the previous thread...


    "7 Fathoms Cayman Rum

    Here's a write up...

    "Made by man and matured by nature, Seven Fathoms Rum is the first and only spirit made entirely in the Cayman Islands. Handcrafted in small batches by master distillers Nelson Dilbert and Walker Romanica in their Georgetown, Grand Cayman distillery, Seven Fathoms Rum is aged underwater at a depth of forty-two feet, or seven fathoms.

    Using only locally grown, organic sugarcane, Dilbert and Romanica distill Seven Fathoms Rum in a Christian Carl copper pot still. Once distilled, Dilbert and Romanica pour the rum into used oak bourbon barrels to age. Instead of simply leaving the barrels to age on dry land though, Dilbert and Romanica cache the barrels in a secret location off the shore of Grand Cayman.

    While it's no secret that shipping wine and spirits on boats has traditionally produced higher quality drinks, Dilbert and Romanica realized that they could replicate these oceanic trips by simply allowing the tides and waves to push and pull on their barrels. The gentle motion of the waves and the alternating pressure of the water during the rising and ebbing tides helps push Seven Fathoms Rum deep into the pores of the oak barrels, extracting all of the rich oak and bourbon flavors from the wood, which, in turn, creates a complex rum with extraordinary depth of character and flavor."


    Wanted to try this because of the story/process and the fact that it's highly rated and has won awards. Wouldn't spend that kind of money on a novelty small batch rum without the ratings and awards.

    Also have a special affinity for the Caymans as I honeymooned there."



    I never did get back to the thread on this one.

    At $60, it was the biggest waste of money I've ever spent on a spirit - and that's saying something.

    It's thin with almost no complexity and it's not even good with Coke. It's similar to other micro-distillery rums that I've tried... in a word... lacking. You just can't disguise a lack of aging and that's where the micro-distilleries fail in terms of rum from the ones I've tasted.

    I dumped my bottle the other day. It doesn't deserve a spot on my shelf... or even in the back room amongst the overstock.

    I'll leave my top shelf rums (Plantation 25, Dictador 20, El Dorado 12, etc.) out of this... heck, I'll even leave my premium mixers (Angostura 7, Cruzan Single Barrel, Plantation 5, etc.) out of this, but even Cruzan Gold (which I only use in blended drinks and goes for about $12) is far, FAR superior.
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    I saw Black Rocks beer out of Marquette in a local meijer recently and purchased the 51K IPA. I'm not a big fan of IPAs (wife is). Anybody know much about the rest of their brews and have a favorable recommend? Curious about the Coconut Brown.
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    Finally was able to try some Heady Topper last night (along with some Sip of Sunshine too). SoS is a great version of a West Coast IPA and I enjoyed it a lot. Heady Topper was a rare beer that lived up to the hype. I loved how it finished so dry and fruity. Not like most IIPAs out there that come across cloyingly sweet on the finish. Definitely deserves the praise it gets.

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    Water aging shows a distinct lack of understanding of how that works. Aging requires a barrel to breathe. Plus you have salt water leaching all of the wood compounds instead of allowing the water and alcohol from pulling them in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rimbaud View Post
    Finally was able to try some Heady Topper last night (along with some Sip of Sunshine too). SoS is a great version of a West Coast IPA and I enjoyed it a lot. Heady Topper was a rare beer that lived up to the hype. I loved how it finished so dry and fruity. Not like most IIPAs out there that come across cloyingly sweet on the finish. Definitely deserves the praise it gets.
    Where did you find the Heady Topper? Beer trade?
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