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Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?
Will you get off the fuggin' "victim-blaming" thing? Can you honestly not see how a detailed analysis of a chaotic situation can lead people to point out that Party A could have, in hindsight, done things differently to avoid or resolve a confrontation, while at the same time concluding that Party B acted improperly? Very few situations in life boil down to a pure white hat/black hat scenario.
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Originally posted by walrus View PostAnother police officer dies in line of duty
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/re...rings-shooting
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Originally posted by trixR4kids View PostConstantly pointing out those specific details that are mostly irrelevant is a form of victim blaming.
To take it away from the hot-button cases: let's say a person starts crossing a street without looking for traffic, and gets killed by a car. Since that person is now dead, do you believe it irrelevant that they didn't look for cars before proceeding into the street, because of pedestrian right-of-way? Is saying that checking for traffic would have prevented their death "victim-blaming?"
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Originally posted by Armadillo View PostTo take it away from the hot-button cases: let's say a person starts crossing a street without looking for traffic, and gets killed by a car. Since that person is now dead, do you believe it irrelevant that they didn't look for cars before proceeding into the street, because of pedestrian right-of-way? Is saying that checking for traffic would have prevented their death "victim-blaming?"
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Originally posted by Armadillo View PostNO, IT'S NOT. If something bad happens, are we no longer allowed to analyze the actions of all parties in the run-up to the incident? Are the decedant's actions to be ignored completely? That doesn't seem wise, or an effective way to learn from a tragic situation.
To take it away from the hot-button cases: let's say a person starts crossing a street without looking for traffic, and gets killed by a car. Since that person is now dead, do you believe it irrelevant that they didn't look for cars before proceeding into the street, because of pedestrian right-of-way? Is saying that checking for traffic would have prevented their death "victim-blaming?"
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Originally posted by GrinCDXX View PostIn a discussion of the consequences (or lack thereof) that the driver faces for his actions, yeah, the pedestrian's lack of looking both ways is pretty much irrelevant. The driver shouldn't have hit the pedestrian regardless of any failure by the pedestrian to exercise appropriate caution--the pedestrian's lack of caution has nothing to do with the driver's wrongdoing. Continuously focusing on the lack of caution by the pedestrian in a discussing about what consequences the driver should face would look an awful lot like an attempt to direct attention away from the driver.
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Originally posted by Armadillo View PostI believe they call something like the pedestrian's complete inattentiveness a "mitigating factor" when discussing the driver's culpability. Therefore, it's entirely relevant.Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens
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Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?
Originally posted by Armadillo View PostI believe they call something like the pedestrian's complete inattentiveness a "mitigating factor" when discussing the driver's culpability. Therefore, it's entirely relevant.
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Originally posted by GrinCDXX View PostSo basically, if we apply that back to the cases at hand, the police officer's culpability is mitigated because interacting with police officers can lead to death, so they shouldn't have done something that would lead to their interacting with police officers...wow.
Don't commit a crime.
Huh.Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
Tastes like a warm summer day. -Raylan Givens
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Originally posted by Brenthoven View PostIf a pedestrian decides to step out in the road, 5-10 feet in front of a car....good luck stopping/swerving in time, depending on speed.
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