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  • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Everybody knows the official house organ of the Clinton Organization is the New Yorker.

    (Though you're right, the NYT is going to be embarrassingly in the tank for Hillary. Elites of a feather.)

    I wasn't talking about this particular story. I was saying that in general there will be a new poutrage every day during the campaign from the Echo Chamber. Fox & Fiends are going to Swiftboat the B1tch Goddess so hard she'll think she's back in 'Nam with Bill O'Reilly.
    Oh please. If John Boehner had done this instead of Hillary Clinton, the poutrage coming from you and the rest of your liberal lunatic crew would be off the charts. You won't own that, but everyone knows it's true.

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    • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

      Originally posted by johnnypohlfan View Post
      Oh please. If John Boehner had done this instead of Hillary Clinton, the poutrage coming from you and the rest of your liberal lunatic crew would be off the charts. You won't own that, but everyone knows it's true.
      So you're freely admitting you're ginning up an outcry for political purposes and merely saying both sides do it? Well, that's progress for the knucks, I guess. The first step is admitting you have a problem...
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      • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        So you're freely admitting you're ginning up an outcry for political purposes and merely saying both sides do it? Well, that's progress for the knucks, I guess. The first step is admitting you have a problem...
        The first step would actually be responding to my comment without putting words in my mouth. Your giant leaps are amusing, but wholly and obviously misleading to anyone with half a brain. You're such an intelligent person, I wonder why you have to resort to such infantile tactics.
        Last edited by johnnypohlfan; 03-03-2015, 12:44 PM.

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        • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

          This is exactly how the Nazi SS were created, and it is now happening here. http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/taskfo..._TF_Report.pdf

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          • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

            Originally posted by johnnypohlfan View Post
            The first step would actually be responding to my comment without putting words in my mouth. Your giant leaps are amusing, but wholly and obviously misleading to anyone with half a brain. You're such an intelligent person, I wonder why you have to resort to such infantile tactics.
            I did on purpose just what you originally did, either by accident or on purpose. I responded to an accusation by turning it around and accusing you. When you do that you don't address the original accusation, as you just pointed out.

            I'm glad we can both agree that is merely a rhetorical tactic and not effective argumentation. Thank you for your participation.

            Oh, if you want to go back and address the original disagreement, to the extent I even understand what you were saying, it seems like you were ducking the idea that the RNC will be both exaggerating and outright fabricating damaging stories in order to distract and defame the Democratic nominee.

            Based on prior experience I can't imagine why you think that won't happen, but I'm willing to listen to your theory about why this time it will be any different.
            Last edited by Kepler; 03-03-2015, 01:16 PM.
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            • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
              This is exactly how the Nazi SS were created, and it is now happening here. http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/taskfo..._TF_Report.pdf
              Procedurally just behavior is based on four central principles:

              1. Treating people with dignity and respect
              2. Giving individuals ‘voice’ during encounters
              3. Being neutral and transparent in decision making
              4. Conveying trustworthy motives
              Yeah, that sounds just like the SS.

              When I think of the SS I think of a personal paramilitary force created and operating extra-legally as the dictator's personal bodyguard and then, as it gets bigger, as a coercive force to protect party officials, enforce party edicts, and attack dissenters.

              How is this anything like that?
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              • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Yeah, that sounds just like the SS.

                When I think of the SS I think of a personal paramilitary force created and operating extra-legally as the dictator's personal bodyguard and then, as it gets bigger, as a coercive force to protect party officials, enforce party edicts, and attack dissenters.

                How is this anything like that?
                Did you get to part 2.13 yet?

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                • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

                  Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                  Did you get to part 2.13 yet?
                  2.13 sounds a lot like the FBI. Which could go either way -- I'll bet this is actually about federal standards for training and oversight so more Fergusons don't happen.

                  However, I will admit that if the bad guys held the executive instead I would likely have visions of Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said.

                  I'll agree that federalizing local (and by definition, small) police departments is another brick in the wall.
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                  • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

                    Supposedly the IRS e-mails were searched by a hockey ref. http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/02/lo...-irs-employee/

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                    • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

                      60 straight months of private sector job growth. What a failure.

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                      • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

                        Originally posted by Priceless View Post
                        60 straight months of private sector job growth. What a failure.
                        And how much of it is seasonal or temporary?

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                        • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

                          Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                          And how much of it is seasonal or temporary?
                          Er, I think the persistence of a phenomenon pretty much excludes the hypothesis that it is seasonal or temporary by definition.
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                          • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            Er, I think the persistence of a phenomenon pretty much excludes the hypothesis that it is seasonal or temporary by definition.
                            Actually if anything, it supports it. Remember that the job reports are partially based upon how many people have made new or returning jobless claims (as you have to file every week). "Job growth" would mean that less people are filing continued claims. One of the biggest assumptions being made is that the size of the work force remains the same, and I'm fairly certain it has diminished in that time. Also, private sector jobs would imply both part-time and full-time. How many of those would have multiple jobs associated with one worker?

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                              • Re: 2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

                                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                                Actually if anything, it supports it. Remember that the job reports are partially based upon how many people have made new or returning jobless claims (as you have to file every week). "Job growth" would mean that less people are filing continued claims. One of the biggest assumptions being made is that the size of the work force remains the same, and I'm fairly certain it has diminished in that time. Also, private sector jobs would imply both part-time and full-time. How many of those would have multiple jobs associated with one worker?
                                Considering you just "guaranteed" that defendants brought up on federal charges after being exonerated at the state level would challenge it as double jeopardy, I'm going to take your assumptions with a huge grain of salt. Come back with some real numbers and we can talk.

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